Fred Phelps Gang to Picket Virginia Tech’s Funerals

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Daveway, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. Daveway macrumors 68040

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    What national tragedy of pain and mourning would be complete without the participation of our favorite hate group in America. Pastor Phelps and the Gang are going on down to Virginia for the funerals.
    http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

     
  2. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    i seriously wonder why nothing can be done about this. surely he is spreading terror and fear into the thoughts and minds of people? :confused:
     
  3. Queso macrumors G4

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    I did actually type www.godhatesvirginiatech.com into my browser yesterday to see what came up. It redirects to the American Red Cross, so someone was clued up at least.

    When a Phelps member dies do their funerals get picketed? Lots of dayglo signs with Ha Ha!! written on them?
     
  4. bartelby macrumors Core

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    I certainly hope so. But I have a feeling the Phelps family have a BBQ instead!
    They're one nasty, nasty organisation!!!
     
  5. johnee macrumors 6502a

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    obviously if one of his members dies, they MUST have done something wrong to bring god's wrath upon themselves, so they picket their own funeral and mock the wrong-doer.

    oh, forgot, they put a picket sign on the coffin which reads : "I did this to myself! Hate me!"
     
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    This Phelps organization is seriously mentally ill. I hope they are kept faaaarrrrr away from any graveside services.
     
  7. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Oh, yeah. I forgot about their ideas why people die!
    I'm hoping they follow the way of many cults!
     
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    Yes, their mass-suicide is long overdue :mad:
     
  9. Motley macrumors 6502

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    Didn't they skip a few funerals when a biker gang said they'd be attending too (was it the Hells)? Maybe they'll show up for this too.
     
  10. artalliance macrumors 6502

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    Aren't there Hate Speech laws that specify that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment?
     
  11. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    Just when you think the Phelps gang is as sick as humans could get, they go and say something like this. Good grief.
     
  12. Daveway thread starter macrumors 68040

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    This group feeds off the pain of Americans like leaches. They push they're political agenda more than any other group.
    Gay people caused the VT shootings, Oh yeah.:rolleyes: One of the students was gay and they all had to suffer from it. The war. These people make me sick.
     
  13. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Nope- And there shouldn't be either. As repulsive as these people are, they're free to say what they want. This is the US, after all.
     
  14. artalliance macrumors 6502

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    And what if Hate Speech incites violance? Still not banned?
     
  15. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Uh...there are laws against violent acts, not speech. Don't even jump on me man. I'm gay- I hate these people. But they still have a right to speak their minds.
     
  16. Allotriophagy macrumors 6502a

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    It would be cool if the motorbike people with their flags turned up and a huge Phelps against Motorbikers gang war erupted, like West Side Story. Lots of singing and twirling around.

    Then the healing could begin.
     
  17. Queso macrumors G4

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    Just as you have a right to say you hope a meteorite lands on that building they laughably call their church whilst they're all inside :)

    I couldn't possibly say it though. No such right here in the UK.
     
  18. iJon macrumors 604

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    I've seen these guys up close and personal. They came to my high school a few years back. We had a gay-straight alliance and they had a field day with it. I don't think a lot of young high school students were ready to witness their hate, a very sad day.

    Doing this stunt on the largest shooting ever might be pushing the edge. They are already having to pay back the funeral costs of picketing the Marine's funeral.

    jon
     
  19. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    i laughed.
     
  20. artalliance macrumors 6502

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    I understand. I really meant my post to be a question, not a statement.
    I got it confused with this proposed law in the UK:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3871867.stm
     
  21. aristobrat macrumors G5

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    Mr. Phelp's Wikipedia mentions that the following act was to protect some people from his protests.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_for_America's_Fallen_Heroes_Act

     
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    The group referred to is the Patriot Guard Riders (www.patriotguard.org), many of whome are veterans, most are just folks who despise the actions of Phelps and his ilk.

    They are at funerals to escort - by invitation - the fallen to their final rest. They shield the mourners from the protests visually with the flag, and aurally, with singing.

    The PGR is completely nonviolent and nonconfrontational. Their only purpose is to show respect, thanks, and to protect the dignity of the event as best they can.

    The Fool Phelps is entitled to his 1st Amendment rights. I just hope that when his time comes, he gets a few personal moments with the Almighty before he goes to his eternal "reward".
     
  23. wongulous macrumors 6502a

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    Ugh, I hadn't even thought of this, but I should have expected it.

    Oh well, I say. Free speech isn't just a bane or an offensive, hurtful display on the day we remember our fellow citizens and loved ones... it's also a double-edged sword that will hurt Phelps and his "church" in the eye of the public--which as long as Westboro Baptist Church and the Phelps "philosophies" are repellent to most everyone else in the nation, I am placated.
     
  24. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    It is.

    The first amendment does not apply to "fighting words" (Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire):
    "There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."​


    ...or phrases that pose a "clear and present danger" (Schenck v. United States):
    "The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent." ​


    There is also the The Respect for America’s Fallen Heroes Act (PL 109-228, 120 Stat. 387) that prohibits protests within 150 feet (50 m) of the entrance of a cemetery under control of the National Cemetery Administration from 60 minutes before to 60 minutes after a funeral. ...However, I do not believe it applies in this case.
     
  25. tonywalker23 macrumors regular

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    i havent really ready a whole lot about their latest plans to go to this funeral but saw the post and thought i would put a reply for what its worth.

    me and a few other from church go street preaching every saturday. some folks go hold up gamecock signs in columbia, some hold up nascar signs in daytona, we hold up signs about Jesus Saves. Jesus said in lk 14.23 to go out into the highways and compel people to come in. and we take Him at His word.
    pics here:http://www.preachertony.com/photos/streetpreaching/streetpreaching.html

    BUT, i would never in a million years go to a funeral and do what they do. im so sick of hearing and seeing people who call themselves Christians (maybe some are maybe some arnet, God knows if they're saved or not) doing things like holding signs with vulgar words (God hates fa**, etc . . .)

    Ive looked at their site a while back and they are calvinistic to the core. I cant stand people lumping all street preaching Christians into homophobic cults like they saw on tv. but i think even more is i cant stand churches who believe calvinism instead of the Bible. God had no pleasure in any of the people dying the other day. The death of a saint is precious in God's eyes (ps 116.15) becuase when they die they get to go to heaven. but even when a wicked person dies God is still not happy:
    "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"
    (Ezekiel 33:11 KJV)
     

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