Funny and on point review of TBMBP

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  1. WhiteWhaleHolyGrail macrumors 6502a

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    I disagree with much of this reviewer's views, notably what he says about dongles and the TB, but this is a good-natured review that somehow manages to be on point -



    Stay foolish!
     
  2. skids929 macrumors 6502a

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    What I walk away from this with is it's not worth spending the kind of $$ these new models if you are already surrounded with current machines.

    I came from a VERY old MB, I can see how someone on a 2014, 13, 12 or even 11 might not be that enamored by the new MBP. For me personally, I love this thing, it was like stepping though a portal compared to my old laptop. I don't understand why some upgrade MBP like they would a PC, these are meant to last many years.
     
  3. maflynn Moderator

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    Odd review, though some of it did give me a chuckle.

    what I thought was poignant was that he compared the 2016 MBP with the 2012 model, which is what I have, so for me its a great apples to apples comparison. The new MBP was faster overall, but not by much. Even with the crazy fast SSD, his FCPX export was only 30 seconds (or so) faster with the new MBP then the 2012 model. While I don't use fcpx I think its a good example of the performance.
     
  4. WhiteWhaleHolyGrail, Jan 4, 2017
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    Yes I was surprised that the export wasn't faster by a greater margin on the 2016, but for those transferring large files day in day out, that 30 second saving could translate into saving hours of time per week which could be vital for those depending on their macs for work.
     
  5. jerryk macrumors 68020

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    With any task there are always multiple factors. This probably means that the gating factor is not primarily disk speed. They may be some processing that needs to occur and gates the export performance.

    FWIW, Dave2D's review of the 2015 15" rMBP should similar performance on FCP between 2014 and 2015 15" rMBPs, even though the 2015 SSD could do 1.5 GB/sec vs. 0.5 GB/sec for the 2014 model.
     
  6. hawkeye_a macrumors 6502

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    Awesome review. Best review of a Mac in a long time IMHO. (regarding the entertainment value and creativity).

    Every other review just rehashed the same lines.

    I do agree with his final thoughts., especially when he mentioned his 2012 MBP; is the difference with the new one worth $3k? (thats how i try to measure the value of a new device/machine)

    I have to say, that for me, coming from a late-2008 machine, the price is "worth it". It ain't perfect for sure....
    -i miss the startup chime
    -i dont want it to bootup when i plug it into power
    -no charging light or battery indicator on the MBP hardware
    -missing magsafe

    I like:
    -size/weight
    -screen, keyboard & trackpad

    Cheers
     
  7. maflynn Moderator

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    Perhaps, but I think the iMac's performance was such that if you were going to spend 3k and needed pure performance, then that may make more sense. I'm not knocking the MBP, but rather just stating based on that review my 2012 rMBP isn't that much slower which is a bit peculiar given my computer is 4 1/2 years old
     
  8. cube macrumors G5

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    Now I see what jumping the shark really means.
     
  9. rasputin1969 macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for posting. Very funny and yet probably the best review I've seen.
     
  10. thesaint024 macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, entertaining review. It gets to the point, if you don't need a new MBP, you don't need it. I'm also in the camp that I did.
     
  11. xWhiplash, Jan 4, 2017
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    xWhiplash macrumors 65816

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    That is Intel's problem, not Apple. They just said that the new processors are, what 25% better than nearly 4 year old processors.

    Regarding pricing. Buy what you want. There is no need to complain about it. This is like me complaining about the GTX 1080 price when I just game at 720p resolution.

    Or complaining about the $5,000 Quadro video card when I only need 6GB of VRAM instead of 24GB.

    For those that need dual 5K displays, very high IO with Thunderbolt 3, find the touch bar increases their productivity, and more. The $3K is basically a deal!
     
  12. CaptRB macrumors 6502a

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    I could get my work done with the older machines, but my wife and I like to have nice things! And these new MacBooks are nicer than the last ones; nice things indeed. With all of the improvements, a no-brainer of an upgrade for us.


    R.
     
  13. SteveJUAE macrumors 68000

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    Some last for many years and some do not I do not think there is any hard evidence that they last longer than any equivalent premium device and a recent thread generally showed this on 2nd and 3rd year ownership

    Personally I hate being put in the position where something goes wrong and you are left with the decision to fork out $100's on a repair or cut your loses and look at it as discount on a new MBP

    IMO it seems it's better if you can afford it, is to sell and upgrade just before your AppleCare runs out which is an additional consideration over the perceived minor performance increase, plus all the new bits is a bonus

    I'm not much of a gambler :) but not adverse to risks on new generations not having the advantage of try and return for many years
     
  14. maflynn Moderator

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    Agreed, Apple can only work with what Intel provides.

    I do think they erred in some strategic and tactical decisions with the MBP, for instance. A lot of the complaints about dongles could have been mitigated by Schiller saying during the media event that they'll be including a USB-C to USB-A connector or addressing the 16GB ram issue. In both cases they would have gotten in front of the issues not behind it.

    Having a single legacy USB port could be viewed as a good idea and then the 2017 model be only USB-C
     
  15. hawkeye_a macrumors 6502

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    Oh another baffling change...

    Why the heck did they move the headphone port to the back? Jeeze.... it was in the 'right' place before, they didnt have to go and break it!(I guess they wanted to save on the weight of the wire required to position it close to the user *rollseyes*)
     
  16. thesaint024 macrumors 6502a

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    I think most of us in the non-power user camp (not including you in this group) can get by on an older machine. Yes it will cost me minutes on a daily basis and won't be as pleasant, but I could get by too. My 09 still can get me through the day as can my PC. It's a lot nicer getting through the day with a snappy, ergonomically superior computer. If you don't agree with this "unique" use case, PLEASE don't buy one.
     
  17. darkloki macrumors member

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    This review is so SPOT on with my current feelings and I actually have the same exact Macbook that he purchased. I'm going to keep mine though (Obviously, lol, inside joke) but at the end of the day I think he's saying he doesn't know what to do with it, and you know I actually feel the same way. When you own existing products you love them, and you need reason to migrate to the new products and unfortunately those reasons are not glaring like we have seen with release of previous products.

    And he's coming from a 2012 Macbook, I have the 2014 Macbook, which is ever better lol...
     
  18. thesaint024 macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, my one wish was a single usb-a port. I can see why they went without though. But I can see how it could be annoying to some who are constantly plugging usb-a devices in and out. But as time passes, I find I never really do that to begin with. It just would've been nice in case I were caught without my adapter.
     
  19. darkloki macrumors member

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    You know when they released the Iphone 7, they included an adapter for those who wanted to use old technology with the new phone. I wonder how difficult/expensive it would have been for apple to do the same here with USB. I'd also argue that USB is far more necessary then a headphone Jack on an Iphone.

    Just wondering aloud... .
     
  20. Savor Suspended

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    That reviewer me realize want the 2014 iMac more. What a bargain!
     

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