Moxiemike

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Originally posted by vniow



Thought:

Maybe, just maybe, Moxie was talking about the 12" Powerbook.

Just thinking out loud here.

you read my mind! ;) It just proves to me more and more that we won't be seeing g4 iBooks for a long good while.

that's what the G4 Powerbook is for....it's about as close to a G4 iBook as we can get. :)
 
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bentmywookie

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Originally posted by Moxiemike


you read my mind! ;) It just proves to me more and more that we won't be seeing g4 iBooks for a long good while.

that's what the G4 Powerbook is for....it's about as close to a G4 iBook as we can get. :)


Definitely. There is no way a G4 iBook would come out when it would basically end up having the same specs as the 12" powerbook.

What I really want, though, is a Gobi chipset iBook (without any Apple "crippling" done to it).
 
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t^3

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One reason why Apple might be doing this is that it really wants to push iLife by making SuperDrives available to even more people, since a G4 iBook would allow it to have the SuperDrive, and thus the use of iDVD. Granted, this plan would make the high end iBook be similar to the 12" PowerBook, but a line can still be drawn between them by keeping everything other than the processor the same. The main differences would be no DDR, no line input, no dual monitor, smaller HD, slower tray-loading drive, and slightly bigger size and weight. I'll even bet that the 12" PowerBook will get L3 cache, DVI out, and 256MB built-in RAM on the next revision so that there will be some more differences... the same thing Apple did with the iMac G4 and the PowerMac G4. This move only means that 970-based PowerBook isn't that far off - perhaps the next revision?
 
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cb911

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what an absurd rumor.:rolleyes: no wonder it's in the 'page 2' section...

oh well, i guess we wouldn't even hear about this stuff if it wasn't for this page 2 forum.
 
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yzedf

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Originally posted by cb911
what an absurd rumor.:rolleyes: no wonder it's in the 'page 2' section...

oh well, i guess we wouldn't even hear about this stuff if it wasn't for this page 2 forum.

I have to agree.

There will most likely not be any updates to the iBook for a while now. The last few have been incremental CPU speed increases of 100MHz, more onboard memory (64 to 128MB), and a better bus (from 66 to 100MHz).

It might be hard to sell a switcher a PB 12" 867MHz if there was a 12" 900MHz iBook. Us peecee guys have been deluded with the MegaHertz Myth. G3 vs G4 does not mean much to most of us. ;)


It would be nice to get a 900MHz G3 with a 133MHz bus and 256MB of memory onboard... *cough* hint *cough*
 
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pianojoe

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No more spped bumps

I want to point out that the current iBook mainboard allows for 800MHz max. (This was clear when the 500MHz model was introduced.) Apple will not redesign the mainboard for another G3 processor!

Thus, the iBook as we know it will cease to exist. There <specuation> will be a new model based on the current 12" PB, but not before the PBs sport a new processor. </speculation>
 
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yzedf

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Re: No more spped bumps

Originally posted by pianojoe
I want to point out that the current iBook mainboard allows for 800MHz max. (This was clear when the 500MHz model was introduced.) Apple will not redesign the mainboard for another G3 processor!

Thus, the iBook as we know it will cease to exist. There <specuation> will be a new model based on the current 12" PB, but not before the PBs sport a new processor. </speculation>

Mainboards are cheap to redesign. Upgrade a chipset or 2... and voila! New product with little effort.

The more I think about it... the more I think the iBook will lie dormant for some time :(

--

w00t! 100th post!
 
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Kwyjibo

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I forget the codename but weren't we talking about faster g3s in the future. why would apple not use these its not like other copanies need g3s.
 
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Nermal

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We have received word from a reliable source that a new updated iBook with a G4 processor will make its way into the education notebook in 'early May.'

I can just picture the G4 iBook being called an eBook!
 
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rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by Nermal


I can just picture the G4 iBook being called an eBook!

god, i hope not. that's all we need. wonder what will be defective on the ebook? certainly not the screens, that would be redundant. maybe the RAM slots.

there's no reason for an ibook g4. until the 12" gets bumped so much that it's no competition, then it's certainly welcome :)

pnw
 
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Nermal

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Originally posted by paulwhannel


god, i hope not. that's all we need. wonder what will be defective on the ebook? certainly not the screens, that would be redundant. maybe the RAM slots.

there's no reason for an ibook g4. until the 12" gets bumped so much that it's no competition, then it's certainly welcome :)

pnw

Yeah, I hope not too, but I can still see them doing it! I'm still waiting for my currently-top-of-the-line iBook to arrive, I'm getting impatient!
 
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howard

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i like the g3 processor...its perfect for consumers...cheap, low heat and battery consumption.. and it can go a lot faster than it does right now...they should stick with it for the ibook in my opinion
 
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rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by howard
i like the g3 processor...its perfect for consumers...cheap, low heat and battery consumption.. and it can go a lot faster than it does right now...they should stick with it for the ibook in my opinion

it is definitely worthwhile, but it's capped by current G4 speeds at MOST, and G4's have altivec which is kind of a tradeoff for the heat/power consumption. Plus, the G3 is so old people are kind of thinking poorly of it...

i'll be so happy when the 970 is out :)

pnw
 
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bennetsaysargh

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there would be no difference if they came out with a G4 iBook. they would most likely have to redesign the case and there would be an extremly small diff with the 12inch PB
 
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WannabeSQ

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I can see if Apple updates the iBook, they could move the 12" PB to the iBook section, make a 14" version of it, and update the 15" Powerbook to the 15.4 version with all the goodies from the 17. Probably in 6 months, after the "By the inch" hype has died off.
 
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jefhatfield

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that would be nice to have a g4 in an ibook...keep it cheap by having it in a plastic case to differentiate it from the metal cased 12" g4 powerbook

and if the spped of the g4 processor is slow at first, i won't mind...it still will run faster than a g3 at the same clock speed

it is about time for apple to go g4 all the way since the pc world has moved to better and faster processors a long time ago leaving the pentium 2, k6-2, and k6-3 processors behind (all chips which were competitors to the g3)
 
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