dudes, so much glory for the g5 ? I am not sure I fully understand. After the last 2 (I mean) two nearly pathetic (my opinion, please allow me) power mac revisions (because of bad quality in general - unheard of from apple - and obviously ridiculous speed improvements) we are all screaming (yes, including myself) at the fantastic new g5. But I thought Apple would give it to us a lot earlier than this ! And it is not even f****g available yet and they say August, which for sure shall be September in a best case scenario, that is basically 4th quarter 2003 !!!! Panther ? we'll be lucky if we see something decent by the end of 2003. Powerbook, forget it. We have nothing, oh, I am sorry, iSight we do have, it is available now and has multiple functions, including cooking eggs on top of your nice flat screen monitor. Do I sound unhappy ? it does not really matter, but I feel sometimes we, apple fan, forget to see the truth. I am certainly one of them. I just cannot stand this piece of crap seating on my desk (a fw800 dual 1.25mhz) and can't wait to get this freaking new g5. Do I need that speed ? completely irrelevant , I am just an Apple fan !!!!