I think that this is correct, if this report is correct: http://www.macedition.com/nmr/nmr_20020914.php It goes into how Apple is going to use the new IBM Power4 chip in thier Powermac's, but it will not be released until later in 2003, I am thinking MWNY with a shipping date of a month or 2 later. It sounds like it is pretty on the nose. The only thing is, if Apple does use this chip, then we will know in October, becasue on October 15, 2002, IBM is going to be talking about the new chip, and most likely they will talk about when it will be available. Let's hope and pray that they say by Janurary, then we can start the new year with 64-bit Power Mac's! What do you guys think?