G5 Rumors

mymemory

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The first one posting (as always)

I think is cool, as long they do not make it for OS X only...
 
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Greg

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i'd imagine they would release an update to OS9 to support the new machines. Otherwise classic wouldn't run either.
 

mymemory

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Yep

Originally posted by Matthé
I want a Titanium G5 2.4Mhz and a superdrive
is that too much too ask?
Probably they would do that, but be sure they are going to take off some other fetures. With Apple is hard to get the 100% of something. I guess the Pismo 500 is one of the units against anything. The G4 450 didn't come with audio imput, the Power Mac 9600 came with 6 PCI slots but one with the video card (so, the didn't put the video card on the mother board and you got 5 PCI left). Apple always give you 90%, hardly the 100%. The iBook combo drive I think is 95%, they used 256K back side cache when the Pismo have 1MB. The iPod doesn't have audio imput (very necesary to record some band or some comference), and so on. The beige G3 233 desk top was a 100% computer too.

That is what I think and how I buy my stuffs.
 
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SBT

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All you can eat rumors

Naked Mole Rat and the ThinkSecret.com guy are one and the same.

This was also some peon on the AppleInsider boards ages ago (back when they actually had content).

Why is this so?

Well the Naked Mole Rat had a good deal aping the Mac the Knife "character" from MacWEEK. We learned when MacWEEK finally went bust (as did much of the whole Mac Publishing organization) that the character was an amalgum of several different people and their collected insider info.

So the Naked Mole Rat would not be *the* Mac the Knife since it was technically not a single person, but a group of people working on a single article.

Also the prose style is "off" in NMR compared to MtK (more juvenile than MtK, its hard to explain unless you read both side by side).

Also it seems when ThinkSecret goes dormant for a while a new NMR pops up and lately the big three had the exact same info on the new G5 hardware being sent to developers. ThinkSecret also has had a lot more app coverage which is also a hallmark of NMR than Mac OS Rumors which focuses more on hardware.

Just my opinion of course, besides its as much fun to ruminate on the rumormongers as much as the next Mac or digital hub device. BTW SpyMac.com is still at it with its iWalk rumors (not that no one else is touching that one?).
 

SPG

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Re: Yep

Originally posted by mymemory

Probably they would do that, but be sure they are going to take off some other fetures. With Apple is hard to get the 100% of something. I guess the Pismo 500 is one of the units against anything. The G4 450 didn't come with audio imput, the Power Mac 9600 came with 6 PCI slots but one with the video card (so, the didn't put the video card on the mother board and you got 5 PCI left). Apple always give you 90%, hardly the 100%. The iBook combo drive I think is 95%, they used 256K back side cache when the Pismo have 1MB. The iPod doesn't have audio imput (very necesary to record some band or some comference), and so on. The beige G3 233 desk top was a 100% computer too.

That is what I think and how I buy my stuffs. [/B]
Apple generally drops features that it believes nobody is using in an attempt to keep prices down. I have a audio input that I have never used. I have had to swap display cards so I don't mind that the PCI slot is being used for that, and I have never filled up all the PCI slots, close but not full.
 

SPG

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Originally posted by Matthé
I want a Titanium G5 2.4Mhz and a superdrive
is that too much too ask?
Do the Math, Mathe. The superdrive is just too big in it's current form to fit into a tiBook, an iBook, or any other current laptop. Unless Pioneer can come up with a new smaller version of the A03 drive, you'll have to be content with an external firewire version.
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kiwi_the_iwik

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Expandability...

People always ask me "Why did you buy that Cube? Sure, it's beautiful to look at, but not exactly future-proof..."

I tend to disagree. Nowadays, computers are probably at their most expandable, with plenty of devices available that use both USB and Firewire. I'm happy with the ability to increase my memory to 1.5Gb, and to have infinite space on dozens of daisy-chained Firewire drives if I want. I don't care if my system bus speed is only 100Mhz, rather than 133Mhz, and I have to wait a millionth of a second more for a program to react than if I worked on a Quicksilver.

It does what I want, and Apple did their job as far as i'm concerned.
 

Ensign Paris

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Cube

The PowerMac G4 Cube is a very fast and fantastic machine to use, I love it.

I am trying to buy one now, the QuickSilver is nice and so much faster that every other Mac but the Cube is just so sexy, if a computer can be sexy.

Guy
 

akuma

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Re: Cube

Originally posted by Ensign Paris
The PowerMac G4 Cube is a very fast and fantastic machine to use, I love it.
I love my Cube also. Just yesterday, I had the cable guy at my house installing (or trying to install) my new cable modem onto my B&W g3 and he glanced over and saw my Cube sitting there...

"Is that one of those Cube things?"
"Yes"
"I've heard those aren't very upgradable."
"What do you need to upgrade?"
"Uh, hmmm, uh"

Then I tipped it over and showed him how easy it is to install RAM and a new video card (if I wanted). He was pretty surprised. :D

Side note: I hate when so-called tech people come over to fix/install something onto my computer, but only succeed in doing nothing.

This has happened to me twice. I got a cable modem at my job (4 PC's) the cable tech dude came to my job, tried to install the new modem, but couldn't get the DHCP to release the ip. He decides that it's my network card (brand new btw) and gives me a new one. Still no luck. Finally says that he's gonna have to call in a service call and someone will be by later that day to get it up and running. Before he leaves I ask if it's okay if I mess with some things to see if I can get it to work. "Sure, but I doubt that you'll be able to get it to work..."

I reinstall the original card and tweak my network settings and lo and behold i was online.

Same thing happens at home (different tech though).

It's a shame that these people aren't either properly trained or don't give a sh*t enough to actually *learn* how to fix a problem.

sorry bout the rant.........

I do enjoy my cube though :)
 

SPG

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I picked up a cube for the office here when the prices were dropping just before it got discontinued.
Too expensive? Hell no.
Does it do everything we need it to? Hell yeah!
It's also nice and quiet over there as opposed to the din of cooling fans and hard drives back in the studio end of the office.
Make a new G5 cube! Just make it cheap(er).
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AlphaTech

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I want my G5... but when will they appear??

I would really LOVE to get a new G5 when they come out. The only problem I have with that is, typically if you wait 6 months or so, your formerly top end system will be the low end.

Even though I know I will end up with a G5, I have to temper my urges (NOT an easy task) and wait until at least one spec increase before shelling out the money to get one.

I will still have to consider how much I want whatever Apple decides to put in the box as compared what my needs are at the time. I will probably only be able to make it a month or two before ordering mine, after the official release (or real shipping date). IF I am lucky that is.

I will still keep my PowerBook G4 (500MHz) as is, until they really kick it up a couple of notches (GHz+ processor and probably a G6 by then) before retiring my lovely laptop. Even then, it will probably go to a family member that will take good care of it.

Peace.
 

MasterX (OSiX)

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I did some calcs:
If a P4's per Mhz rating is 1…
A iTanium is 2.5
A G5 is 4

A 4Mhz P4, 2.5Mhz iTanium, and a 1Mhz G5 are equally fast. But btw, the G5 will debut at around 1.4Ghz and P4s will only be up to 2.2 or 2.4Ghz at that time. The G5 can scale up to 2.5Ghz within the year if Apple wants too.

The G5 at 2.8Ghz (fastest rumored speed) is equivilent to a 12Ghz P4 w/the best Ram and MoBo Intel makes. This is the eqivilancy of a 5Ghz Quicksilver.
 

jefhatfield

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let's say that the G5 is way, way faster than the best P4 two months from now in january, how will a non technical pc consumer know?

they will still just look at the G5 at one point something GHz versus the P4 at two point something GHz, and if they are a new buyer, will still get sucked into the myth and be more tempted to stay pc and still not try the mac
 

SPG

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ahh, the megahertz myth again.
You know that Intel will hype the crap out of it's Mhz or Ghz with such thunder that it will drown out all the voices of reason combined. Look at us on this forum, educated Mac saavy people talking about the new chips only in terms of Mhz. It's time for a real benchmark to be established with varying scores for different tasks so that a machine wouldn't just be rated a 7, but say 9/5 or something that would show that it performs so well at optimized tasks and less so at non optimized tasks.
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SPG

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Oh yeah, and what about the ads lately? WindoughsXP is the "Center of your digital universe"? I thought MacOSX was the center of my digital hub?
Windoughs even has to steal marketing ideas now?
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MasterX (OSiX)

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I hate to say it but…

I REALLY think Apple should consider making (not NAMING) their computers based on the AMD scale, if it's as fast a a 2Ghz P4 is a G5: 2000, of it's faster it's a G5 2000+. Unlike AMD, Apple shouldn't hide their Mhz/Ghz rating though, the AMD XP 2000+ is a 1733Mhz AMD I beleive. AMD even went so far as to remove the Mhz rating from the BIOS and other assorted stuff. Apple should just quote the AMD scale, it seems to appeal to users when you say "CPU performance exceeds that of a 2Ghz P4 due to a highly-advanced RISC architecture." Mac phanatics know it, "Dumb-Ass-Joe-Consumer" is simply impressed with the key words: '2000' and 'more' and 'advanced'.
 

SPG

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Good point. I think that for all the credit Apple gets for making cool stuff and all, they should follow their own advice and "think different".
Why compare Fiats and Ferrari's by RPM? It's ludicrous to compare cars solely by RPM and that is akin to comparing computers solely by clockspeed.
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MasterX (OSiX)

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Originally posted by SPG
Why compare Fiats and Ferrari's by RPM? It's ludicrous to compare cars solely by RPM and that is akin to comparing computers solely by clockspeed.
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Intersting you bring up cars as an example. Here's another simmilarity: Most cars red-line at 7k RPM. But if my car can go into 7th gear, and you can only go up to 4th, and my gears are equal to yours, when I'm doing 3K RPM, i'm smoking you. And what do you thing Altivec is?

:¬)

Nitro anyone?