G6+1 Summit ?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by jbarley, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. lostngone macrumors 65816

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    If Trump is pissing them off it means he is doing his job, yes they are our allies but we need to do what is best for the U.S.
     
  2. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    You can't just piss people off. That's not his job. Anyone could do that. His job is better trade deals, and pissing the rest of the world off and having them aligned against us is not going to help anything.
     
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    That doesn't work in a globalized world where everyone depends on everyone.
     
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    Hope Trump reminds them ... many still owe their share for the funding of NATO.

    particularly Smug Soy Boy Trudeau.
     
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    Soy boy? Really? Let me guess, you think Trump is an “alpha”? :D:D:D
     
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    Care to explain how isolating the US from all our allies and allowing China to replace us as the world's top power is what is best for the US?
     
  7. lostngone macrumors 65816

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    Everyone doesn’t depend on everyone. We SHOULD renegotiate some of these deals/agreements where we are getting screwed over.
     
  8. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    He's not negotiating. He's just doing what he usually does, whatever he wants without thought. Nobody is saying he can't/shouldn't negotiate better trade deals. The same argument could be made for the Iran deal. You get a better one in place while the other one is in place. What does simply pulling out of the deal do? Besides piss people off. What do these tariffs do?

    We will find out. I think this will hurt Trump's base a good deal - factory workers and farmers and the like. Maybe even some corporate hotshots who employ those people and export products. We are about to see how loyal those supporters really are.
     
  9. lostngone macrumors 65816

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    Lets worry about the U.S. and let China do what they are going to do. We are not the World Police/humanitarian agency and shouldn’t be sticking our noses in other countries business
     
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    So you’re ok with America becoming weak and irrelevant on a global scale under Trump....got it.


    My god...if Obama pulled this kinda s*** you people would be foaming at the mouth like rabid bears.
     
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    Ok, so you explained why you are fine with Ignoring China's rise, but care to explain why isolating us from all of our allies is what is best for America?
     
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    Admitting that he’s been conned is too hard for his ego.
     
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    lostngone macrumors 65816

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    Why wouldn't I be okay we China's rise? Have they attacked us in the last 30 years?
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    And what wrong with that? Why does it seem we need to inject ourselves in every conflict on the world stage? Why are we spending trillions on wars in the last 40 years that we get nothing out of except more hatred and violence?
     
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    How many of these countries run trade deficits with the US?
     
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    Wrong. I wish Obama did this ****. Obama was an apologetic idiot that fell to his knees so a country like China can take advantage of us. He is what made the U.S. weak. Now that we have a president that puts America first, It’s a problem? Or is it because liberals hate Trump, so no matter what he does he’s automatically wrong? Pathetic.
     
  19. cube macrumors Pentium

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    Don't blame them if US companies transferred everything to China.
     
  20. bradl macrumors 68040

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    So sayeth the one who supporters a POTUS who spent more to save more Chinese jobs for ZTE than he has to save American jobs for Carrier.

    BL.
     
  21. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    Trump cares about America about as much as he cares about telling the truth. Poor negotiator, doesn’t prepare, doesn’t think, sometimes tells a direct contradictory statement back to back... he’s putting his ego first and he’s making other countries stronger in the process.
     
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    Let's be clear here, Trudeau openly stated that we are protecting key industries on our side, he positioned it as protecting our own. If tariffs are brought down I think it should be across the board, if not then we protect key industries and the US can do the same.
     
  23. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Of course they should be brought down across the board. The initial problem here is because of protectionism and more importantly, the BS reason that Trump imposed his tariffs. Yes, he can always say that it is his decision and make it final, but not without any repercussions, regardless of if he likes those repercussions or not. But if he had to be called to the WTO with providing proof of evidence to support his claim that this is because of "national security", do you honestly think he could show it?

    So we fall back to "because protectionism." :rolleyes:

    I read the following book to my daughter last night, and serendipitously enough she chose it. It was Mumkin, a Serendipity book by Stephen Cosgrove. The premise of the book is that Mumkin, a pony, hates sharing the clover and honeysuckle vine with the other horses of Middling Meadow, so he decides to build a fence to keep the others out. But in realizing that he has built a wall around what he thinks are the best things in the meadow, he traps himself in. Also, since the other horses and ponies see him doing that, they also put up walls around their areas of the meadow, so that none of them at all can enjoy the meadow. Mumkin realizes the mistake he made, and tears his all down, with the thought that the only way to truly enjoy this world is to share it with one another.

    Imagine that: a first grader reading a book geared towards children and those her age, learning a lesson that seems to be lost among Trump and his supporters today. And that book was written 33 years ago, in 1985.

    BL.
     
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    What's good for the country is good for General Motors The Trump Organization, and vice versa
     

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