Gay activists have met their match with Muslim barbers

jkcerda

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So a lesbian walks into a Muslim barbershop, and asks for a “businessmen’s haircut”.

It sounds like the beginning of a joke, but it really happened, and now a government agency called the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario will hear her complaint.

Faith McGregor is the lesbian who doesn’t like the girly cuts that they do at a salon. She wants the boy’s hairdo.

Omar Mahrouk is the owner of the Terminal Barber Shop in Toronto. He follows Shariah law, so he thinks women have cooties. As Mahrouk and the other barbers there say, they don’t believe in touching women other than their own wives.




In five years time, it won’t be gay activists forcing themselves into Christian B&Bs. It’ll be Muslim activists vetoing the gay pride parade
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what say you guys.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/16/gay-activists-have-met-their-match-with-muslim-barbers
 

obeygiant

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I'm 99% sure you can go to any salon and get a "guy" haircut. Unless you're looking for trouble then you can go into a Muslim barbershop.
 

quagmire

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This doesn't like a gay rights issue. There are plenty of straight women who like short boy like hair as well.
 

jkcerda

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I'm 99% sure you can go to any salon and get a "guy" haircut. Unless you're looking for trouble then you can go into a Muslim barbershop.
true, but if a Muslim can deny you service due to his religious beliefs, why can't a Christian be afforded the same right?
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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true, but if a Muslim can deny you service due to his religious beliefs, why can't a Christian be afforded the same right?
He is not allowed to touch another women based on his beliefs. I can't judge if that Muslim who follows Sharia Law is actually biased towards women and gays(most likely he is), that's besides the point, cause he has a valid reason. It's not something they just made up yesterday.

Now Christians don't have a valid reason not to serve people, other than complete bias. When they have a valid reason(pertaining to any set of rules they follow), I'm sure people would hear them out.
 

jkcerda

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He is not allowed to touch another women based on his beliefs. I can't judge if that Muslim who follows Sharia Law is actually biased towards women and gays(most likely he is), that's besides the point, cause he has a valid reason. It's not something they just made up yesterday.

Now Christians don't have a valid reason not to serve people, other than complete bias. When they have a valid reason(pertaining to any set of rules they follow), I'm sure people would hear them out.
I seriously do not understand why some Christians claim that.

Wow, combing the archives for subject material are you jkcerda?? :D
first time I see it :D
 

Michael Goff

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It's wrong in both instances.

Then again, that's Canada and I'm told we can't go by outside law to determine ours in the US...
 

Scepticalscribe

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Well, posed in that way, an answer is clearly called for: So, I say 'you guys' have a finely calibrated and richly nuanced 'hierarchy of hate', which is fascinating to observe.

In practice, this means that when one detested group (gays) encounters another (in this instance, a Muslim, who happens to be a barber) you have difficulty in deciding who to shout for. Actually, it tells me that some on the right dislike gays more than they dislike Muslims. That is what I say.
 

citizenzen

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It's wrong in both instances.

Then again, that's Canada and I'm told we can't go by outside law to determine ours in the US...
Agreed.

In the U.S. you can't deny service to a customer simply because they belong to a protected group (race, sex, religion, age, disability).

I don't know about Canada's laws, but I would not be surprised to find they have something similar.

If you own a public business, then you need to get over whatever personal bias you have and serve anyone who walks through your door.

Anyone.
 

Happybunny

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What about the Muslim lady who didn't ring up an alcohol beverage at the counter? It that not the same thing? Is she also wrong?
This was handled last December.

Marks & Spencer has apologised after a Muslim member of staff refused to sell a customer alcohol. The retailer said that where employees had religious beliefs that restricted what foods or drinks they could handle, it tried to place them in a "suitable role". An M&S spokeswoman said: "We regret that in the case highlighted we were not following our own internal guidelines"

"http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/dec/23/marks-and-spencer-muslim-alcohol
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Yes, in my opinion she is (can't do the job, don't take the job)but what she did was not illegal, because (a) people buying booze aren't a protected class, and (b) another employee stepped in, so no one was denied service.
So lets say for some strange reason, I wanted a Brazilian bikini wax. And the women employees did not feel comfortable with male genitalia and refused service. Are they being discriminating or bias?
 

Huntn

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I believe this ties in nicely with the proposed Arizona law the would allow refusal of service based on religious beliefs. I assure you all there is no place in any country based on religious freedom where an individual should be allowed to act in a prejudice manner towards another based on their faith. They are free to practice their religion but not at the expense of other's civil freedoms and the law of the land.

Laws protect us. If it's legal to drink, no clerk should be allowed to refuse to sell liquor. No cab driver should be allowed to refuse transportation if there is a bottle of liquor in the luggage. If their religion won't allow them to do so, I'd suggest they go find a job where their faith is not put to the test. And if employers want to consider these beliefs, don't put those employees in positions where their perceptions of their faith will be violated.

This is why religious forces are trying desperately to put laws like the Arizona law into place to force their religious standards on the rest of society and there is just no place for that in a secular society where multiple religions are practiced.
 

jkcerda

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why are you not reading the thread? answer was already posted, see below.

I seriously do not understand why some Christians claim that.


first time I see it :D

Easy there. He has a flame suit on and you probably need to adjust your sarcasm meter. :D
and its a NEW flame suit, not the old one, that was was beginning to feel "hot" :p
 

lannister80

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So lets say for some strange reason, I wanted a Brazilian bikini wax. And the women employees did not feel comfortable with male genitalia and refused service. Are they being discriminating or bias?
Yup! Gender discrimination. Unless there's some special "genitalia/crotch" escape clause in the law.
 

citizenzen

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So lets say for some strange reason, I wanted a Brazilian bikini wax. And the women employees did not feel comfortable with male genitalia and refused service. Are they being discriminating or bias?
Yes. If they want to offer depilatory services, and normally have no problem treating the genital area of women, then they should have no problem treating the genital area of men. If they find men asking for their service, then they should hire an employee who is comfortable working on both.
 

jkcerda

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Yup! Gender discrimination. Unless there's some special "genitalia/crotch" escape clause in the law.
Yes. If they want to offer depilatory services, and normally have no problem treating the genital area of women, then they should have no problem treating the genital area of men. If they find men asking for their service, then they should hire an employee who is comfortable working on both.
what if the service is not offered for lack of qualified workers? or liability issues?