Geez, you think WE'RE hostile to Republicans...

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Thomas Veil, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    I came across this today. It's a CNN article about Sen. Jim DeMint calling Obama a "salesman for socialism".

    If you think I'm posting this because I'm angry at what DeMint said..you'd be wrong. I was actually quite impressed with the comments which people wrote below the article. For once, a large portion of them are not crazy right-wing rants.

    Oh, there are a few. Some of them are easy to spot because THEY'RE ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS. :rolleyes:

    But as I live and breathe, the vast majority of these comments are openly hostile to the Republicans who got us to where we are today. I'm frankly amazed by the one-sidedness of the comments being posted.

    It's gotta be a liberal media conspiracy. :D

    Or maybe, just maybe, Americans are royally pissed off at the Republicans.

    In all seriousness, do you think this is a one-time fluke? Or have you seen other places where comments which used to go 50-50 are tending to become very anti-conservative? Is the economy fostering an ever-growing resentment to the GOP?
     
  2. Prof. macrumors 601

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    The republicans are only digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole. The republicans have to admit defeat and just go away for the next 8 years.

    I, for one, am a-okay with Obama's "Socialism"

    The United States Republican Party: 1854 - November 4th, 2008

    :D
     
  3. zap2 macrumors 604

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    I don't think the majority of American buy into this Obama is an evil socialist and that socialism itself is evil


    What people do buy into is that Bush+Co economic plans have NOT been working out...call Obama what ever you want, if it works!
     
  4. SteveMobs macrumors 6502

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    This was up on Digg today. I feel like Republicans have done quite some damage over the years, it's time they admit their short comings and foster some growth with bi-partisan politics.

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  5. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Well, if you guys would stop burning Republicans at the stake ... it might help. :p
     
  6. leekohler macrumors G5

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    They usually burn themselves at the stake by not knowing their facts and using lame arguments.
     
  7. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    Im independent, but am more of a moderate conservative, but that is still pretty far to the right for this board...

    It really doesnt matter what we say, or what evidence we use at all. People that disagree with the majority on this board are simply just not welcome.
     
  8. Schtumple macrumors 601

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    That's insane, how can you rape the budgeting that badly in such a short space of time?!
     
  9. mgguy macrumors 6502

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    This chart means very little. The same deficit can be achieved in exactly opposite ways--for example by cutting taxes and leaving spending alone, or by spending more and leaving taxes alone. A better graph to show might be GDP or some other index that better reflects the health of the economy and not the tax/spending predilections of the government.
     
  10. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    HA, no. There are actually some respected ones here, BECAUSE they use real evidence.
     
  11. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    Comparing the total national debt to GDP is the best way to compare the relative size of debt, but doing so against the budget deficit is less valuable. That said, the total debt compared to GDP has been increasing since the Reagan years.

    While crude and on Wikipedia, I imagine that the numbers in this graph are fairly accurate.

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    There was a brief dip in the overall ratio of GDP to debt in the 1990s, but over the past 8 years, we've continued our expansion of the debt in both real and nominal terms. The Baby Boomers' demand on Social Security and Medicare is only going to make things worse.
     
  12. macfan881 macrumors 68020

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    whats agrevating to me about the repulicans mainly the ones in the congress/senate is that they had no problem with spending a trillion dollars in a war in iraq/afganastan and the tax cuts we had in the bush era if anyone spoke out that were spending to much or whatnot there unpatriotic etc. now that iraq seems like a victory and everyones in agreement to be ok with afganstan on what obama does now we spend money here were we need it most the same republicans are shouting were coming to a socialist country. i put at it this way if we sit and do nothing and spend nothing i believe we will be in a depression atleast with obamas agenda it sounds fundamentally sounds like it should help out this rescission
     
  13. PcBgone macrumors 6502

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    Id much rather be in a depression then live in the Obamanation of socialism that he is bringing.
     
  14. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Think of the trees we could save, if they would just fess-up and self-immolate via spontaneous human combustion.
     
  15. Thomas Veil thread starter macrumors 68020

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    If you and the media and Washington Republicans keep using phrases like the one that is in your sig -- Obama's Socialist States of America -- you might just create the opposite of your intended effect.

    Because if Obama has any success at all in relieving the depression, providing wider health care and such, and you keep calling it "socialism", you could very well make voters more comfortable with that word.

    I've not yet heard any opinions on my original question: is anyone seeing a kind of sustained rise in hostility towards the Republicans for getting us into this depression?
     
  16. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    As I said before, not only do I see an abundance of hostility on this board towards anyone that smells even remotely of being a conservative, much less a republican. God forbid you disagree with the majority on this board either. You will be qouted out of context, and there are a select number on here who will antagonize you. Ive had it happen to me and Ive seen it happen to others here.

    I also see hostility towards republicans and conservatives on other boards also. There are even some firearm oriented forums I visit that have some democrats and liberals on them that take nasty shots at republicans.

    In any case, should be interesting to what things are like four years from now after Obama has had a chance to fix things. If things are worse I suppose it doesnt matter if there is evidence that Obama made bad decisions or not, people here despise anything conservative so much they will still be blaming Bush and the republicans. They deserve some blame, but no one has convinced me that this financial meltdown is entirely his/their fault.
     
  17. leekohler macrumors G5

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    It's BS comments like this that get you guys slaughtered in here. If you want to be taken seriously, start by dealing honestly with the subject matter, rather than coming in here with goofy posts like this.

    Glocke- did I take this quote out of context? :rolleyes: This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
     
  18. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

    Well, by conservative standards, we won't be able to judge exactly how successful Obama will be for many, many years after he leaves office, right?

    Why is it that conservatives insist on historical review of Bush's tenure in office before judgement is rendered, yet they can call Obama's tenure a failure within a month of his taking office? :confused:
     
  19. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    no you did not lee, but often times things are taken out of context here which gives the original statement a whole new meaning.

    As for the current trend of nationalizing things, even I realize that the guy I voted for twice started all of this.
     
  20. TSE macrumors 68030

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    If the Republican party stuck to the Republican ideals, aka non Neo-Con ideals, it would be a lot more welcome and effective politically. The Republican ideals aren't bad, infact I prefer them over the Democrat ideals, but the thing is, the Republican Party itself doesn't stick to those. The Democrat Party could be a lot better also if they stuck to their ideals better too, but that's for another discussion.

    My guess as to who they are going to put out for 2012, is either Jindhal who is a blithering idiot and they will crash horrible, or they could put someone who is actually half decent like Tim Pawlenty. While yes, Tim Pawlenty isn't perfect as he voted for some of the neo-con bills, so did a lot of the Democrats at one point. He is very well liked here in Minnesota which tends to be a more liberal state, which could swing a couple more votes towards the Republican Party and overall his stay here as governor has been a more successful one than most people think.
     
  21. yg17 macrumors G5

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    That's Democratic Party. And yes, it does matter because that's the official name of the party and what you should call it. They wouldn't like it if we started calling it the Republic Party.
     
  22. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    And, of course, that only happens from the liberals. It's not like we've ever had a conservative poster take something out of context, or try to twist someone's words around, or argue a complete strawman. Those are strictly lie-beral traits, right? You could search this entire forum -- and indeed any forum around, including the pro-gun ones -- and not find conservatives arguing dishonestly anywhere. But five seconds on any site turns up examples of liberals taking things out of context.

    It's almost like the whole world is out to get you poor conservatives, isn't it?
     
  23. TSE macrumors 68030

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    Sorry, typo.
     
  24. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    Finally someone understands.....:) J/K....

    Of course both sides do the same things. But the OP was asking if people noticed anger against Republicans, I merely answered the question with my experiences here and on other sites.
     
  25. paddy macrumors 6502a

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    As a non-US citizen, I can't understand for the life of me why people insist on treating any Republicans opinions as valid. They f****d up your country severely. Why should they be worthy of even remote consideration for at least the next 4 years?
     

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