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George Best Dies...In Other News, 24hr Drinking Now Available
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i can never understand why all the media attention round mr best's death ?
sounds like he had many problems with drinking - but if that was someone you know who had drink issues would they get the media attention ?
yeah so what if he was an old master at football
sounds like he had many problems with drinking - but if that was someone you know who had drink issues would they get the media attention ?
yeah so what if he was an old master at football
liketom said:
To people of a certain age, he was like the David Beckham (in terms of fame) of the day... why shouldn't this be in the news?
liketom said:
yeah but
princess diana was only some woman that married a prince
so what if reagan was an old president
so what.................. you get the idea
Sure, he had a drink problem, a condition which you cant just 'give up', he was also widely loved and a great man that was as big for the worlds largest sport as pele or maradonna.
a tiny bit of respect for his grieving family might be nice.
the media was swarming outside the hospital waiting for last orders to be called , that what i find oddBlue Velvet said:
fame for his talent- yes - fame for drinking him self to death -no
liketom said:
I don't know - people always seem fascinated by flawed, self desctructive talent.
Personally I am quite sad that he's died - he lived just around the corner from me and we used to see him quite regularly out and about. Despite his problems, a lot of people had a lot of affection for him. My thoughts go to his family.
I guess I must be a person of a certain age.Best was a footballing genius,and while Beckham is a very good player he isn't in Best's class.He stopped playing first class football at 26 for gods sake,such a waste of talent.And yes I'm sure he'd laugh at the irony.Blue Velvet said:
liketom said:
George Best is not getting attention because he had a drinking problem.
You've got to understand that Best was perhaps the greatest footballer ever, at least Pele thought so. He was a far, far bigger phenomenon than any footballer today. He all but invented modern football by himself. He was the original rock star footballer.
But it's not just about being a sporting superstar, he was also a cultural icon in the same way the Beatles were, or Bob Dylan. Would you be surprised if they got media attention on their death beds? I mean they were just musicians.
And to say he drank himself to death is accurate but misses the point that he was an alcoholic. It's a disease, not just a lack of will power.
My favourite George Best quote:
"I spent my money on fast cars, fast women and drink - the rest I just squandered."
munkle said:
because i'm not an alcoholic i could never understand the pain of going through what he had to.
if it is a disease - then it would not be his fault that he got that drink problem
but... i'm not gonna rant on why i hate the media's coverage of this - like you say he was a ikon to the sporting world and will be missed.
and your quote of him hit's the nail on the head :"I spent my money on fast cars, fast women and drink - the rest I just squandered." i kinda like that quote
George Best = Football Legend, but not a legend.
Though he did have some amusing quotes.
The guy loved his drinking though and you have to balance his condition of alcoholism with the fact that he did actually just love getting pissed:
"I gave up drinking once, it was the worst 20 minutes of my life."
it's a 100% devastating experience when someone you love, especially someone in your family dies so my regards do go to his family for their loss. But it is hard to be sympathetic to him as a person for drinking and his health and if I'm right in remembering, he would have shunned anyone who did so.
Though he did have some amusing quotes.
The guy loved his drinking though and you have to balance his condition of alcoholism with the fact that he did actually just love getting pissed:
"I gave up drinking once, it was the worst 20 minutes of my life."
it's a 100% devastating experience when someone you love, especially someone in your family dies so my regards do go to his family for their loss. But it is hard to be sympathetic to him as a person for drinking and his health and if I'm right in remembering, he would have shunned anyone who did so.
Totally agree with that.mpw said:
But its the family of the person who donated their liver I feel for. It gave Best an extra 3 years of drinking...
I don't have much sympathy for George Best as he had a good "innings" and I wouldn't mind having a fraction of the life that he lived, but the point being is a football legend died yesterday and he will be missed for his contribution to football and that only, in my eyes, as an avid football supporter I will respect his footballing skills today with the minute silence but be jealous of his lifestyle and ironically have a drink after the game and try to pull 
(wether we win or lose)
(wether we win or lose)
Best at his peak was certainly up there with the likes of Pele, Maradona and Cruyff it's just a pity that he's going to be remembered more for his drinking than his football skills.munkle said:
Mind you, I agree totally with what evil_santa posted it's a pity that having a liver transplant didn't act as a final wakeup for him to change his ways...
Some of you people are sick.
Have a look around the internet and see the hundreds of pages of tribute to this man. See the pages were people can send in their own personal tributes. Read them - read about the qualities of this man and stop being clouded by media stories during the past 30 years.
Do any of you know how much he has done for charities ? Have any of you read anyone who had a personal encounter with him and had something negative to say ? Do any of you realise how he was the only person who could bridge the religious divide in northern ireland. This was a special special man, never mind the greatest footballer the planet has seen. He was iconic.
George Best had one character flaw - he liked a drink.
And as for not deserving a second chance (liver transplant) - do you think that other people awaiting liver transplants are all angels, ready to drop in from heaven to collect their new livers ? They have plenty of character flaws too. Georgie Best didnt intend to drink again - his illness was stronger than him. And who deserves a second chance, if not a man who gave hours of joy, not just entertainment but pure joy to millions of people around the world ? Doesn't such a person deserve a chance ?
Not news worthy ??? What is ? Becks and Posh ? Modern day footballers who are overpaid, overrated and srop to the floor at merest of tackles ? B list celebrities ? Suicide bombers ? Politicians who will lie to get your votes ?
Mohammed Ali hasnt boxed for over 20 years, do you people also think that his death wouldnt be newsworthy ?
Just because something is current doesn't necessarily make it more interesting or newsworthy !
Condolences to his family.
Thanks for the memories George
RIP
Have a look around the internet and see the hundreds of pages of tribute to this man. See the pages were people can send in their own personal tributes. Read them - read about the qualities of this man and stop being clouded by media stories during the past 30 years.
Do any of you know how much he has done for charities ? Have any of you read anyone who had a personal encounter with him and had something negative to say ? Do any of you realise how he was the only person who could bridge the religious divide in northern ireland. This was a special special man, never mind the greatest footballer the planet has seen. He was iconic.
George Best had one character flaw - he liked a drink.
And as for not deserving a second chance (liver transplant) - do you think that other people awaiting liver transplants are all angels, ready to drop in from heaven to collect their new livers ? They have plenty of character flaws too. Georgie Best didnt intend to drink again - his illness was stronger than him. And who deserves a second chance, if not a man who gave hours of joy, not just entertainment but pure joy to millions of people around the world ? Doesn't such a person deserve a chance ?
Not news worthy ??? What is ? Becks and Posh ? Modern day footballers who are overpaid, overrated and srop to the floor at merest of tackles ? B list celebrities ? Suicide bombers ? Politicians who will lie to get your votes ?
Mohammed Ali hasnt boxed for over 20 years, do you people also think that his death wouldnt be newsworthy ?
Just because something is current doesn't necessarily make it more interesting or newsworthy !
Condolences to his family.
Thanks for the memories George
RIP