Giuliani and the Raskins to join Trump's legal team

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    Wow. The end must be near. This seems like a mistake to me. But, what do I know.

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-new...-donald-trumps-personal-legal-team-1524171910

    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a longtime ally of President Donald Trump, is expected to join the president’s private legal team representing him in the Russia investigation, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Mr. Giuliani is expected to join the team “immediately,” the person said. Currently, Jay Sekulow is the primary lawyer on the team after its lead lawyer, John Dowd, resigned last month.

    EDIT: updated thread title to reflect later news that Martin and Jane Raskin have also joined Trump's private legal team.​
     
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    Anyone wondering what essential skills this guy brings?
     
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    Loyalty. And 9/11.
     
  4. LizKat thread starter macrumors 601

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    LOL once upon a time he was a prosecutor going all in after people who evaded taxes...
     
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    He's senile - this is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
     
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    Hm, maybe not all of them...
     
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    Rudy was one of Trump's most loyal lapdogs during the campaign. Trump sent him away like a whipped puppy after the election, instead of putting him in the administration.

    But even a scalded dog will return to an abusive master.

    That being said, Trump also had another old lawyer returning. He preceded Cohen (and is 70 years old). This one has already suggested that Cohen will roll.
     
  8. Rhonindk macrumors 68040

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    But doesn't RG know a number of the players on the Russian side? This would likely give actionable access to counter, clarify, or confirm some of the stuff we have been seeing, hearing, and reading about.
     
  9. LizKat thread starter macrumors 601

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    Are you suggesting that Rudy leaks? :eek:
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    Trump must be somewhat alarmed at that prospect.

    Now McClatchy (and others) report that Martin and Jane Raskin are also joining Trump's private legal team. They are South Florida lawyers known for white collar criminal defense. Both used to be federal prosecutors.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article209390249.html


    https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-lawyer

    The Raskins provided no comment, directing inquiries to Sekulow. They also bring Justice Department experience to Trump's team. According to her law firm bio page, Jane Serene Raskin prosecuted organized crime at the Justice Department, served as counsel to the head of the Criminal Division, and was a senior federal prosecutor in Massachusetts. Martin Raskin served as a federal prosecutor in New Jersey and Florida, and also worked on organized crime. According to their firm's website, they handle white-collar criminal defense matters, including "Congressional and Independent Counsel investigations."​
     
  10. IronWaffle macrumors 6502

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    I assumed that to avoid such unseemly incidents he used a catheter.

     
  11. LizKat thread starter macrumors 601

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    What I want to know is if the Raskins were aware Rudy was coming aboard.
     
  12. Zenithal macrumors 604

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    Yes. Conflict of interest. RG should know this. He's not a stupid man when it comes to law. Other things, sure. He was a very good attorney in his prime.
     
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    Loyalty. Likely a countersuit.
     
  15. LizKat thread starter macrumors 601

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    Rudy Giuliani has worked with Mueller in the past. Rudy should be very careful now not to get caught up in obstruction of justice trying to help Trump. But hey, loyalty to The Don is loyalty...

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    How is that not the definition of obstruction of justice? Meeting with an investigator and asking him to wrap it up.
     
  17. LizKat thread starter macrumors 601

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    It doesn't sound like he's made that step quite yet. He thinks to do it.

    One expects at least the Raskins to dissuade him. Or not. What do they care for Giuliani.
     
  18. Rhonindk macrumors 68040

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    Leak? I’m talking about the knowledge and business network he brings with him.
     
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    I know it has not happened yet, but going by Dana Bash's tweet, it sounds like that's what is role is.
     
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    Having your attorney meet with the prosecution to negotiate a potential resolution is standard practice. It's not going anywhere, but it isn't obstruction.
     
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    But Mueller's team is not the prosecution. They are the investigators. That is akin to having your attorney meet with the detectives and asking them to stop investigating.
     
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    He’s been a fixer in seriously shady **** for well over a decade. Basically a Manafort or Flynn.
    Frankly, I think Guilani is there because he's got dirt on Mueller. The tactic will be to distract with a shred of a legitimate piece of dirt on Mueller and snowballing that into Trump's base thoroughly rejecting any and all FBI claims as a result.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, Giuliani lost all credibility during the presidential campaign.
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    If that's the case, then Giuliani is a traitor, just like Nunes. We're talking about a hostile foreign government interfering in our election and these people think it's more important to keep this lazy, ignorant con artist in the White House than to protect our nation.
     
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    They're both (just like any US Attorneys office). They aren't just referring matters to prosecutors. They're the ones actually doing the grand jury questioning and issuing the indictments. Here's the Flynn indictment, signed by Mueller.
     

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