GLAAD lashes out against TLC for new show "My husband's not gay"

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    It seems ironic to me that GLAAD are so up in arms about this. Don't they advocate "personal preferance" about choice in partner? But apparently, these men are wrong for choosing the partners they have chosen?

    Their logic is blowing up on themselves.

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-glaad-petition-tlc-cancel-my-husbands-not-gay-20150106-story.html


    I was particularly interested in Sarah Kate Ellis' comments about not forcing people to change who they love. How does this statement advance GLAAD's position? The men in this show apparently love their wives. GLAAD wants to argue differently? Good grief. It sounds like GLAAD is all about forcing Gay people to act the way GLAAD wants them to be, instead of how the person may actually want to be...
     
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    It seems that the show is scrapping the absoluty bottom when it comes to cheap TV, so that not really a good starting point.

    From what I understand, this program focusses on on a bunch of men who have choosen their religion's doctrin (by marrying women) over their actual sexual preference.

    Thats a rather weird starting point, and wether they "love" their wives doesn't really matter.

    (hint: one can "love" as in forming an emotinonal band to anybody, regardless wether one is sexually interested).
     
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    If gay guys want to go against nature and pretend to be straight, that's up to them. Such Godly people, and yet so willing to go against the way God supposedly designed them. Oh well, nothing a Cialis can't take care of.
     
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    Care to comment on GLAAD's stance? Do you think this show is "irresponsible" and "putting countless young LGBT people in harms way"
     
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    I understand where they're coming from. It's wrong to send a message that being gay is something you can "overcome" and choose to be straight. These men are being deceitful to themselves, and these women who choose to be their wives are completely delusional. Repressing your sexual orientation and living a lie is akin to emotionally abusing yourself. You can't choose to be straight just like you can't choose to be gay. However, a person who is born biologically straight has no incentive to pretend to be gay. A person who is born gay, on the other hand, has plenty of societal pressure to be straight, especially in the Utah LDS community.

    So in a way, yes they're being irresponsible by sending a message to young people that homosexuality can be repressed and ignored. Sure, it can be, but only at the cost of your long term happiness. For this reason "ex-gay reparative therapy" on minors is banned in my state. Signed into law by our Republican governor, nonetheless.
     
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    I see what you're trying to say here. But are these men "choosing" to be straight (i.e. trying to change their orientation) or are they choosing an opposite-sex relationship that they decided they wanted?

    I think the article was clear that the men still acknowledge same gender attraction; so it's not as though they are lying to themselves? They've made a choice about who they want as their partners, plain and simple. Who gives you or GLAAD or anyone else the insight to tell them they're lying to themselves and that their wives are delusional?

    Again, who said anyone was repressing or ignoring anything? I don't think it was these men... And who are you to say that long term happiness for homosexuals is predicated on seeking out same sex relationships?

    And who (besides you) has said anything about "ex-gay reparative therapy" on minors. I don't think the show, or the men who are the subjects are advocating for any such thing.
     
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    there is such a thing as being bi-sexual, not sure why they have an issue, seems its ALL or nothing to them :rolleyes:
     
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    They're lying to themselves in that they feel they can learn to be sexually aroused by their wives. They're setting themselves and their future families up for a life of pain, hurt, and most likely adultery. Then, in 20 years after they've decided they can't bare to live a lie anymore, they'll finally come clean and tell their wives they've been sleeping with men on the side this whole time, thus breaking their families that they spent so much time fighting against nature to create. This is a very unhealthy dynamic for everyone involved in the situation, and it's wrong of TLC to exploit it. (Make no mistake though, I'll be watching it)
     
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    Would your position be the same if the show was flipped and they were choosing to remain in their same-sex relationships as opposed to coming to terms with their heterosexuality?

    Probably not:

     
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    Very true, but from what I've seen of the promos they don't claim to be bi-sexual. They claim to be sexually attracted primarily to men.
     
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    Actually, yes. Just because something is sinful in my view, doesn't mean I don't support someone else's right to do it.
     
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    As a straight person, can you see yourself having long term happiness in a homosexual relationship?
     
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    If it really has a negative effect on their long term happiness, then I'm pretty sure that will be one of the things that the show will exploit. These types of shows wouldn't get anywhere if everyone in them was happy, so I'm sure if you are right it will end up sending the message you want anyway.
     
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    One of the men (in a different article I read) claimed to have a very fulfilling and passionate sex life with his wife. Again, you're injecting a lot of personal opinion about someone else's choices and motivations. And you're making a lot of assumptions about the way someone else feels about their situation. I wonder how you developed the ability to experience someone else's feelings.

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    No, but I haven't gone out and actively looked for one either. It's not something I've ever wanted for myself. That's not the case for these men.
     
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    He's certainly free to claim that, and I'm certainly free to call BS on it. Unless he's bi of course.



    It's fine that they want it. Michael Jackson wanted to be white, I wanted to be a ninja turtle when I was little. Some things are biologically impossible.
     
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    And do you have proof to back that claim up? Or is this just your opinion that you've developed?

    Because it seems to me it requires a raft-full of assumptions to even come to that conclusion about someone else.
     
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    Shrug. If a bunch of idiots want to exploit their religion and sexuality and allow a network to televise it and exploit it as well, who cares? I don't think the show will harm young gay people. Most people see it for what it is.
     
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    LOL. Back what up? That you can't change your sexual orientation?

    Tell you what, you go attempt it, and come back and let us know how your first gay sexual encounter went. We'll psycho-analyze from there...
     
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    You are more harmed in general when you watch TLC, it doesn't matter what the content it.
     
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    As far as I can tell the producers are looking to create a trash TV program about people struggling to accept their own bisexuality. Stay classy TLC, Stay classy.
     
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    No, do you have proof to back up the claim that a gay man cannot experience long term happiness in a heterosexual relationship. You said "it's fine if they want it, some things are biologically impossible"

    Don't be obtuse, you knew what I was asking.
     
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    I won't back that up strictly on principle. If you think that 99% of anyone in the field of psychology would disagree with that notion, you're seriously mistaken.

    Speaking of obtuse, don't sit here and pretend that you, as a heterosexual, could ever be happy in a homosexual relationship. You know it wouldn't go down like that. Let's quit BS'ing.
     
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    Boom!

    Why is GLADD making such a big deal with this my husbands not gay show? They dont seem to have a problem with a similar show that's been on USA for a while now, Chrisley Knows Best.

    Thank you very much. I'll be here all night.
     
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    So just your opinion then, glad we cleared that up.

    If I had grown up deciding that I absolutely had to be in a homosexual relationship for one reason or another, then I'm sure I could make it work. But it's not something that I could ever see myself being interested in. I can't see what it would hold for me. But I'm not one of these men, so the whole line of reasoning is sorta pointless.

    These men on the other hand, they want to have families where they have kids and those kids have both their mother and their father together. Perhaps to them that's more important that homosexual sex? Who are you to tell them it can't work?
     
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    Of they can be happy but does that change the fact that they are still gay? No.

    It is biologically impossible to change your sexual orientation. You cannot just wake up one day and choose to become gay for a couple of weeks.

    This stupid show encourages people to ignore their true identity. TLC is nothing but a joke.
     

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