GLBT youth and homelessness

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by leekohler, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Having experienced this myself, this makes me really sad. There has to be more we can do to help these kids.

     
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    I do a lot of volunteer work with Salt Lake City's homeless population. We do deal with this to some degree as well. I've been in the process of writing some grant requests to start a Homosexual Homelessness outreach program, it looks promising. Maybe I can bounce some ideas off you when we get it started.

    SLC
     
  3. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Thanks. We've got some great programs here in Chicago, it's just not enough. I'm thinking of going to volunteer with Center on Halsted. I can't stand to see this.
     
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    It's a shame to see so many homeless. Regardless of sexuality or race, they all need help.

    I guess if the government helped more it would be deemed as socialism?
     
  5. mgguy macrumors 6502

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    I don't see why this is the government's responsibility. Should be addressed by voluntary contributions from the private sector.
     
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    Those are frightening numbers. I had no idea. :( I am not sure a specific GLBT program or shelter wouldn't get abused ("I'm gay, can I have a bed?") but I don't know if that is really a "problem" per se. A needy youngster is a needy youngster.


    Do you really think that the government should have no responsibility to help its people, especially the nation's youth?
     
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    Oh yeah, you're right! :confused:

    Are we really going to hijack this thread? For the record, it was és who started this one!

    SLC
     
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    You sound like you just read Ayn Rand or something. Read some other books and economic philosophies as well. The U.S. had a much closer approximation to Objectivist/Libertarian ideals in the late 19th and early 20th centuries that caused massive economic and social instability.

    If the government doesn't get involved in these matters social problems tend to blossom into issues that will affect you as well.
     
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    Have you ever heard of Bruce Bastain? He's one of the guys who created the Word Perfect word processing software and a Utah native/resident. He likes to donate to groups who address LGBTQ issues. Maybe you can shine some light on that source of $$$$ in Chicago.

    SLC
     
  10. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Do NOT hijack this thread, you guys. :mad: We're talking about kids here, not adults.
     
  11. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Sure- here Center on Halsted's funding:

    http://www.centeronhalsted.org/coh/supporters/supporters.cfm

    http://www.centeronhalsted.org/partners.html

    I'll have to look into Night Ministry and such further.
     
  12. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Sad story Lee... Sadly, the rates of homelessness are increasing across the board as the economy sours.

    Of course, I'm sure it's just because they're lazy. :rolleyes:
     
  13. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Come on Mac, let's try to keep this OT. We're talking about kids, not adults. Let's try to keep it in that realm. It's very clear there are very different reasons for kids being homeless. Let's focus on what can be done to help them.
     
  14. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    I think he was being sarcastic.

    Isn't there a gay and lesbian community services center in Chicago? They might provide direction or advice no?
     
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    I know Mac was being sarcastic. It's not needed in this thread.



    Yes- The Center on Halsted, which I mentioned before. But they don't have near the resources to deal with something this monumental.
     
  17. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Sorry Lee, but the things that will help these kids are largely the same thilngs that will help homeless adults -- and you know how certain groups of people around here feel about providing such help and the reasons they cite for it. Regardless, as the thread starter, if you would like to keep this thread free of such discussion, I will respect your wishes.

    These kids need a place to live, and someone to provide food and shelter -- and the ability to work through those difficult teenage years while making a few mistakes along the way -- as most of us did. Most government-funded help programs function under a zero-tolerance policy -- for various reasons; which makes helping kids with these kinds of backgrounds a very tough proposition.
     
  18. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    It's also tough to find the right people to help.

    It kills me when I see guys/girls in their teens on the street hustling. I was out west on North Ave a while ago and it was just sad. There are so many of them. :( Who could do that to a kid? I mean seriously? WTF is wrong with people?
     
  19. és: macrumors 6502a

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    Erm, what exactly have I started? I was asking a question. Talk about paranoid.
     
  20. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Es- enough! If you wanna squabble with SLC, then go do it in PMs. I'm not putting up with it today. Not in this thread anyway.
     
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    Seriously, don't get ****** with me when I've done nothing wrong. I asked a frikken question and got accused of 'starting something'. I simply stated that I was asking a question. I'm not putting up with being accused of something, not by SLC and not by you.

    Bollocks of the highest order.

    EDIT: I'm more than happy for a mod to remove my posts in this thread - just as long as they remove SLC's accusations.
     
  22. Aea macrumors 6502a

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    You're overreacting, me made a non-confrontational point.
     
  23. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    You're damn right I'm over-reacting. Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually discuss an issue without people sniping at each other for a change?

    Now look- come in here and discuss the issue. If you don't wish to, then please don't. At least SLC had something helpful to add.
     
  24. és: macrumors 6502a

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    I guess that's just a fundamental difference between the way a lot of Americans think and the way a lot of Europeans think. These kids are homeless, hungry and need help. These are not bums looking for a hand out, these are people in need.

    If, as a nation, we can't give our kids shelter then it's a sad state of affairs. Although, I don't really see the relevance of sexuality (or any other factor) when it comes to things like this. Help is needed and, in my opinion, it should be given - regardless of race, sexual preference etc.
     
  25. Aea macrumors 6502a

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    Look, I entirely understand how passionate you feel about this issue, since quite frankly it is a level of human tragedy that shouldn't be allowed in this day and age, in any country, to any child, and of any orientation.

    How do you propose we solve it? Private donations, even major ones are clearly not getting the job done. I think it's perfectly reasonable to bring up the fact that it will take government intervention to help solve this, and it will be labeled as "socialism" if it happens.
     

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