GM: Government Motors

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Aranince, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Aranince macrumors 65816

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    Hmmm... I can see the fed asking the Ford family for all their class B stock if Ford requests government money.

    Not like Ford has been doing bad, but they have been seriously missing the mark on timeliness by a year or two with their products -- though they nailed the credit market moves spot on.

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    Funny how Kirk Kerkorian's man on the board and the thorn in GMs side was right about quite a few of the moves needed to be made, way back in 2006.
     
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    The guy ran the company into the ground and when he got the first round of bailout money, he didn't do a damn thing with it to help the company. I'd force him out too before giving him another dime.
     
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    Don't be so absurd! He's a Socialist damn it and that's the end of it!!
     
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    How would you fix the problem? GM needs a full-right-rudder and usually it takes a new captain to do it.
     
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    Another sensational, wacky thread with no basis for it's claim is started by Aranince! Meanwhile, life continues...;)
     
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    Not only that, he's black. :rolleyes:
     
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    You know… now that you mention it!

    :eek:


    :D
     
  11. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Isn't Obama half-black?
     
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    No. He's half white.;)

    cup half empty or full theory at it's finest.
     
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    How about milk chocolate?? I likes milk chocolate.
     
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    Pretty sure he's half muslim. What do you expect form a guy not born in the US?
     
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    He's mix-race. Some would call it malotto or halfsie.
     
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    So if he's 50% black, 50% white, 50% Muslim, 100% Kenyan and 100% socialist, then he's 350% of a man :eek:
     
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    Dude. I have a brand new keyboard and monitor. That almost made me spew coffee all over the place.

    Priceless!!:D
     
  19. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    If I've correctly understood the article the President is saying that unless GM and Chrysler sort themselves out they won't receive more taxpayers money to keep them afloat.

    How is that "Socialist"? :confused:
     
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    We're supposed to just hand over our money and say nothing. That's the free market at work! :rolleyes:
     
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    So by trying to protect the interests of the taxpayers and not the stockholders, the Administration is Socialist and the enemy of Capitalism?

    Makes sense if you think like a Tinfoil Republican™... self-evidently I don't ! :D
     
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    Just heard that Obama promised US government will guarantee the warranty on all newly purchased GM cars. If this isn't in the socialist tradition, I don't know what is. Next thing you know he will give you uninsured motorist coverage to pay you for damage caused by uninsured drivers who crash into you.
     
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    That is what makes me mad. So he is in effect giving them my money while having the press play along with the idea he is holding out still.
     
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    If you think that this is somehow proof that Obama is a "socialist", then you need to go back and read your theory. To be frank, I somehow doubt that you ever did in the first place.

    If the US government to some extent assumes ownership and control over General Motors through the use of tax dollars, yet the relations of production are still that of a capitalist order, meaning the workers who contribute to the construction and sale of vehicles work for a wage and have no control over the value added by their labor, then we are still clearly within the domain of capitalism, or more accurately, state capitalism. The day President Obama announces that all workers for General Motors must assume democratic control and ownership over General Motors is the day that Obama reveals himself as a socialist.

    If you wish to criticize Obama's policies, fine. But let's try to get our theory straight once and for all.
     

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