Good news for "Remain"

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by deany, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Excellent. Well this is taking back control and giving parliament power.
     
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    I imagine things could get rocky if parliament blocks brexit since it was voted for by a majority and it usually only takes about 35% of votes to form a new government after an election. UKIP government in 2020?
     
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  6. deany, Nov 3, 2016
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    If Parliament vote for a second referendum and-

    By say February 2017

    • the pound is parity with the dollar
    • inflation is 4 to 5% (0.3% before referendum)
    • fuel prices are at £1.45 to £1.50 a litre
    • Banks about to exit the UK

    etc etc

    I can see a lot of 1st referendum 'leave' voters seeing the light.
     
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    Not an expert of British politics, but I don't see a majority of MPs voting against Brexit
     
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    I think the important thing is how many tory MP's mothers send in a sick note on the day.
     
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    While it sure looks like a massive "egg on face" moment again for the UK goverment it's yet another sympton of the current political instability in the UK as a consequence of the current constitution with all it's holes. At least this verdict turns everybody back on the road.

    Funny how it wasn't the EU who started to crumble with the vote, as predicted by some brexiteers, but the UK themselves.

    UK is in full on crisis mode for half a year. Perhaps this will finally lead to reforms and making the country more democratic and tackle the problems like first past the post, house of lords, lack of actual decentralized federalism (which causes problems liek with scotland).
     
  11. zin Suspended

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    MPs should vote the same way their constituencies voted.
     
  12. cube macrumors G5

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    Yes, the referendum was not binding.
     
  13. NeilHD macrumors regular

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    MPs should vote in the best interests of their constituents. That is not necessarily the same thing.
     
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    "UKIP leader Nigel Farage said he feared a "betrayal" of the 51.9% of voters who backed leaving the EU in June's referendum."
    BBC News

    Talk about 'The pot calling the kettle black'.
     
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    Let's just vote until we have the desired outcome.
     
  17. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    I don't think the people will get another vote.
     
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    So voting in the UK is like giving a fake computer to a toddler and telling them they are really operating it like a big person.

    Then once the people are all done playing the MPs step in and do the real thing. Do the MPs tell you guys how good you are voting - and maybe, just maybe, one day - when you grow up your vote will matter just like a big persons.
     
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    No, if anything surviving this crises will only toughen up the elites. You're naive if you think politicians are just going to go back and say "well boys they made sure to let us know they don't like what we are doing, we better pass some reforms that benefit the people instead of us, corporations, and filthy rich people".
     
  21. deany, Nov 3, 2016
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    The voters were lied to by the 'Leave' campaigners Johnson, Farage et al and there was nearly zero passion behind the 'Remain' campaign save Ruth Davidson MSP and Mayor of London Sadiq Khan.
     
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    And America is voting for two presidential candidates who should probably both be in prison. And frankly neither is suitable to be president.
     
  23. deany thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Please see below.

    Absolutely, there is a very strong argument that next Tuesday has become a farce that effects us all indirectly.
     

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