Good time to watch Sicko again

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by .Andy, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    If you haven't seen it or it's been a few years since you did it's worth revisiting. I'll pop it up in the learning sticky as well.

    Sicko on google vids
     
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    It actually popped up in some free HBO channel for me so I DVR'd it, onto an external hard drive mind you. I'll be watching it soon.
     
  3. designgeek macrumors 65816

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    I haven't seen it but I'm kinda iffy on Mr. Moore so is it worth watching? I kind of "liked" Fahrenheit 9/11, I'm glad I saw it at least. I'd like to hear from people that saw Sicko if possible.:eek:
     
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    It's typical Michael Moore. Not a balanced approach. Rather it's slanted to his way of thinking.

    Nonetheless, it does have some interesting parts if memory serves.
     
  5. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    It's a bit here and there and a lot of it directed at heart strings. He highlights some of the terrible points about the government profiteering from drug and insurance companies under the current system. And patient's being screwed over by a system where it's in the best interests of insurance companies to withhold care. Ultimately it's entertaining and at the very least fodder to make one think and check out the accusations.

    edit: one of bits that most struck me on this watch was the tactics used historically against UHC (cries of socialism, communism, Canadian and UK waiting list horror stories etc) that are still being wheeled out today.
     
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    Can't wait to see his movie about the economic downturn though
     
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    Quick question, is there something to all of these avatars being changed to pills? I'm wondering if it's something I should participate in in about 11 more posts.

    EDIT: looks like a demi thing.
     
  9. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I got about 3 minutes in. Yeh, you didn't follow proper safety rules and cut your own fingers off, I should definitely have to pay for that. :confused:
     
  10. Eanair macrumors 6502

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    That's right.

    There are no such things as accidents.
     
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    Have you ever had an accident?

    P-Worm
     
  12. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Yes, and I paid for it. Its called personal responsibility. I shouldn't have to pay for some dick who doesn't know how to run a saw.
     
  13. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Your personal contribution would be about .0000000001 of a cent (just estimating here, it's not like it a measurable amount of money).

    Is that too much for you?

    Some people seem to be extremely selfish. If I had the means, I would have paid that man's bill in full. Accident or not. It's the right thing to do, to help others, to sacrifice for others.
     
  14. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I have no problem if reciprocity is present. Unfortunately I don't trust most Americans further than I can throw them.
     
  15. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    But then again you enthusiastically entrust them with firearms and count on their camaraderie and cooperation in forming a regulated militia to overthrow a tyrannical government......
     
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    I do trust law abiding people with guns... far better to trust your neighbor who has his own gun than the neighbor who relies on the government's guns to take your stuff.
     
  17. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    You should pop this prose in your signature :).
     
  18. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Basic rights of the people. I also think everyone should be properly trained in firearms before they are allowed to fire them. Also I don't have to trust someone in every aspect of life to know they are on the same side as I am.
     
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    Its funny to watch people freak out when I know their address/name from their phone number being punched into google. :p
     
  20. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    So pretty much when you say that "you don't trust most Americans further than I can throw them" what you really mean is that you actually trust them with everything as long as it has nothing to do with your money.

    You really like money. Money.
     
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    I just don't trust them to not take the free and easy ride. I see it everyday with people on unemployment, I have heard people bragging about their checks as I am sure I have pointed out before. I know at least 2 people who aren't even actively trying to find a job because they know their unemployment benefits will keep coming for months from now.

    I see overweight people eating at mcdonalds/KFC, the only thing that makes this alright to me is the fact that I know I won't be paying for their quadruple bypass surgery.

    I like my money because I earn it, I don't ask anyone else to go out of their way to support me, I expect the same. In fact if I asked someone to support me I would have a little more respect then what I have seen in the American culture, providing free health care for someone who is purposely living like garbage is a spit back in my face.
     
  22. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    This is rich coming from a libertarian that believes that they are an island in society.

    I hate to break it to you but the majority of your earning capabilities comes not from your aptitude, but from the luck of being born into society. But the crux of libertarian philosophy is to completely diminish the contribution that society has on your personal success. Because that way to can justify not re-contributing to society. Libertarianism is even better if you demonise society as a bunch of cartoon overweight, social welfare braggers.
     
  23. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I am not a self proclaimed libertarian, I share some ideas with libertarians, and I happened to vote for one in the previous election because I didn't like either of the main party candidates (similar to the previous election).

    Nearly all of my achievements have been derived from hard work. Basic society is more of a breeding ground for success, it doesn't do the work for me. I could have dropped out of high school, went on a permanent heroin binge and not contributed at all to society if I chose. Its safe to say we pay our share of taxes to contribute back to society already, lets not enslave ourselves more than needed.
     
  24. .Andy thread starter macrumors 68030

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    You don't need to be. Your posts and justifications of your views are more than enough. You subscribe to being an island in society for the purposes of justifying keeping more money and not recontributing to the society that has provided for you to be where you are (which is incredibly lucky).

    You regard the majority of your fellow american's as a danger to your money. Hence you've dedicate a substantial portion of your posts to demonising them as lazy free-loaders whilst patting yourself on the back for your own "hard work". It's all about money. Your primary motivation in life is money. And it's because you are born into the society that you were that you can have that motivation.

    On the contrary it provides the majority of your success. There are 9 year olds in africa that work harder than you ever will. But they weren't lucky enough to be born into a more fertile breeding ground. You're lucky for your bit in life. It's not due to your own autonomous "hard work". By birth you're had a relatively free ride within a lucky society.
     

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