Google will let Android users in the UK and France use RCS regardless of carrier support


SteveJUAE

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Without Apple supporting RCS and without end-to-end encryption, RCS is largely dead on arrival.
So all the Iphone users that send Green Bubble msg's won't want a better service for thier money

It's not like sms is already encrypted on an Iphone and given most USA and Australian users already pay for unlimited sms you may as well get something for your included unlimited txt bundle

I agree it would be better if it's encrypted end to end but lets wait and see
 

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So all the Iphone users that send Green Bubble msg's won't want a better service for thier money

It's not like sms is already encrypted on an Iphone and given most USA and Australian users already pay for unlimited sms you may as well get something for your included unlimited txt bundle

I agree it would be better if it's encrypted end to end but lets wait and see
It’s not about iPhone users not wanting a better service for their money; it’s about Apple not wanting to adopt RCS (for now?). iPhone users have no control over whether Apple does or doesn’t adopt RCS.
 
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It’s not about iPhone users not wanting a better service for their money; it’s about Apple not wanting to adopt RCS (for now?). iPhone users have no control over whether Apple does or doesn’t adopt RCS.
Then maybe you wish to rephrase your original post re DOA needs to be put into the context you mean ie specifically for Iphone users :)

Besides voting with your wallet seems to work quite often :D
 

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Then maybe you wish to rephrase your original post re DOA needs to be put into the context you mean ie specifically for Iphone users :)

Besides voting with your wallet seems to work quite often :D
There’s nothing that I need to rephrase. RCS is DOA. Europe and Asia rarely if ever use SMS (they use WhatsApp, WeChat, Line, etc. instead—there’s plenty about this if you Google it), so RCS won’t matter to them. Americans and Canadians are largely the ones who still use SMS, but it won’t matter significantly since the RCS rollout has been so fragmented (so, even many Android-to-Android texting won’t be utilizing RCS) and RCS won’t work when Android users text iPhone users.
 
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There’s nothing that I need to rephrase. RCS is DOA. Europe and Asia rarely if ever use SMS (they use WhatsApp, WeChat, Line, etc. instead—there’s plenty about this if you Google it), so RCS won’t matter to them. Americans and Canadians are largely the ones who still use SMS, but it won’t matter significantly since the RCS rollout has been so fragmented (so, even many Android-to-Android texting won’t be utilizing RCS) and RCS won’t work when Android users text iPhone users.
Whilst plenty of generalizations there is trends as you note however for enterprise and other business use SMS still dominates and continues to grow. RCS is likely to enhance this further and is far from dead :)
 

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There’s nothing that I need to rephrase. RCS is DOA. Europe and Asia rarely if ever use SMS (they use WhatsApp, WeChat, Line, etc. instead—there’s plenty about this if you Google it), so RCS won’t matter to them. Americans and Canadians are largely the ones who still use SMS, but it won’t matter significantly since the RCS rollout has been so fragmented (so, even many Android-to-Android texting won’t be utilizing RCS) and RCS won’t work when Android users text iPhone users.
When using an Android phone, I use regular sms all the time and so do plenty of others I know.
 
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When using an Android phone, I use regular sms all the time and so do plenty of others I know.
If I had an android phone I’d like to send pictures/videos of my children to my husband and other relatives on android without getting charged 55p for each item. I currently use WhatsApp but it compresses is everything.
 

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If I had an android phone I’d like to send pictures/videos of my children to my husband and other relatives on android without getting charged 55p for each item. I currently use WhatsApp but it compresses is everything.
Try sending image as a document in whatsapp, it will go at full res :)
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When using an Android phone, I use regular sms all the time and so do plenty of others I know.
It's not sending so much which seems on the decline it's the receiving :)

I have never had so many sms from banks etc including Apple 2 step verification etc etc, delivery notification, pizza arrival immanent :rolleyes:

My wife could almost run my batteries down with credit card notifications when shes on a shopping spree LOL
 
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If I had an android phone I’d like to send pictures/videos of my children to my husband and other relatives on android without getting charged 55p for each item. I currently use WhatsApp but it compresses is everything.
I’m aware that many use other messaging apps. My point was that the above poster suggesting people rarely if ever use sms is wrong and I don’t think RCS is DOA in Europe. If I want to send a quick message, regular text is fine (I won’t ever send pics, I keep my bills to the minimum). So if I can send a high quality picture message like on iPhone, great.
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Try sending image as a document in whatsapp, it will go at full res :)
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It's not sending so much which seems on the decline it's the receiving :)

I have never had so many sms from banks etc including Apple 2 step verification etc etc, delivery notification, pizza arrival immanent :rolleyes:

My wife could almost run my batteries down with credit card notifications when shes on a shopping spree LOL
Never even thought about the 2FA I use. Further goes to show sms is far from dead.
 

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I’m aware that many use other messaging apps. My point was that the above poster suggesting people rarely if ever use sms is wrong and I don’t think RCS is DOA in Europe. If I want to send a quick message, regular text is fine (I won’t ever send pics, I keep my bills to the minimum). So if I can send a high quality picture message like on iPhone, great.
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Never even thought about the 2FA I use. Further goes to show sms is far from dead.
Sorry I actually meant that I’d like to use something like RCS and not get charged to send media.
 
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Sorry I actually meant that I’d like to use something like RCS and not get charged to
send media.
You wont it will use your data plan not like sms/mms that uses cellar charges :)

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