GOP senator: Healthcare deal unlikely this year

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  1. RootBeerMan macrumors 6502

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    Good. The House version of "healthcare" is a nightmare. While I'm not a fan of Obamacare, I do not want to see people who are invested in that system lose their insurance through no fault of their own. More government interference is not the answer to the problems that government interference caused in the first place. Sadly, we are never going to get back to the days when there was a truly free market in medicine and the government kept their hands off it. It then behooves us to have something in place that is beneficial to most people and not a detriment to the people, or the country. The Senate seems to a bit more cautious than the fools in the House. That's a good thing, IMO. Here's hoping they keep blocking the House.

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/336054-gop-senator-healthcare-deal-unlikely-this-year

     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

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    So now all of a sudden they are going to put money back into the exchanges. Good lord the GOP is a flaming dumpster fire.
     
  3. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Who knew healthcare was so complicated??? Everyone. Except Trump.
     
  4. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Trump said he was like a smart person, not that he was one.
     
  5. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    To be fair, the House "healthcare" bill is a Ryan and crew creation. Trump is just a supporter of something he knows nothing about.
     
  6. samcraig macrumors P6

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    As opposed to any/everything else Trump "knows" ? ;)
     
  7. darksithpro macrumors regular

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    The Democrats shoved the ACA-Obamacare down our throats. They own it. The longer health care doesn't get resolved the longer we can blame the Democrats for the current mess.
     
  8. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Rewriting history I see.
     
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    I mean, sure, politically that's the narrative "you guys" are going to go with.

    Now....do you think the American people are going to blame the Dems while seeing clearly in the news how the GOP, whom holds every branch of government, can't seem to fix or replace it? Do you really think the country is going to blame the party and president whom aren't in power for not fixing the ****ing thing they spent 6 years saying they had a replacement for?

    How dumb do you think the majority of the country is?


    For the record, I HATE the ACA, but even that pile of corporatist garbage is better than the unrestricted system it tweaked at the edges.
     
  10. darksithpro macrumors regular

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    It's the truth. It was a partisan bill pushed through Congress by Obama and the Democrats. Like I said, they own it.

    It's hard to fix a disaster the Democrats created in the first place. Republicans want to get it right, something this complex to fix what the Democrats did takes time. Again the Republicans have to clean up the Democrats mess...
     
  11. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Those Rose colored glasses of yours must have a lot of thorns. How are your eyes not bleeding.
     
  12. elistan macrumors 6502a

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    Indeed, the GOP game plan is to deliberately sabotage as much as possible anything that has Obama's scent on it, even if it means screwing over Americans. Fortunately, it seems a few GOP members of Congress are starting to realize the damage they're doing, and are realizing that the ACA can work (somewhat) when properly supported as intended.
     
  13. samcraig macrumors P6

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    If it's so hard - why did they try to push a "fix" through so quickly that was so flawed? They want to get it right? They've had 6+ years to work on a better plan.

    And the Republican's have to clean up the Dems mess? Again rewriting history. Go look at the economy, for example under the Repubs and the Dems and then come back here and tell me who makes a mess.
     
  14. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Funny how it was 'let's appeal Obamacare!' in November, to 'we can finally repeal Obamacare!' in January, to 'oops!' in March, to 'it wasn't us!' in June. I guess it just takes some more time to process reality. The US voters know who owns this mess now, even if some are in denial.

    FWIW I agree that Romney/Obamacare isn't the best we can do, but I don't think the private sector will do anything for health care other than charging what the market can bear - literally 'your money or your life'. Time for universal health care provided as a service by the government paid for by taxes, just like the armed forces, universities and schools, roads, airports, police, rescue services, security and intelligence services, libraries, and a huge number of other government-run public services that people don't equate with communism.
     
  15. poloponies macrumors 68030

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    Really? So in 7 years of whining nobody's come up with even a crumb of an idea to fix this? And the best they can do at the moment is a true dumpster fire that drops tens of millions from the ranks of the insured? Gosh, Republicans are so smart and effective.
     
  16. darksithpro macrumors regular

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    The last 7 years Obama was in office. There was nothing Republicans could do. Now they have to fix the mess. Nice try to flip the blame though.
     
  17. poloponies macrumors 68030

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    You know that we were all awake and alert for the last decade and actually witnessed what was going on? Your response might work with Trump, but not for sentient beings. The only thing to exit Mitch McConnell's mouth was "repeal, repeal, repeal." "Nothing Republicans could do" is a fiction. Nothing Republicans CHOSE to do is correct. It was 7 years of wishful thinking that nobody would want Obamacare, but now that people have come to rely on it, they're stuck. Your BS will not work here.
     
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    How hard can it be to tweak the ACA into something better. Why throw the whole thing out. It shouldn't take the Republicans this long to know where the trouble areas are and patch it.
     
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    Does this convince any centrists?
     
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    Really? The Republicans couldn't put together a plan? If they couldn't do it in 7 years where they could put something together - what make you think they can sit down NOW and put something together within the next 4-8 years?
     
  22. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    They can't put together a plan, because they don't have a goal to improve healthcare. (Not just a lack of strategy, but a lack of a goal!) Their only goal was to use healthcare as a political cudgel.

    They ran on America's fear of the word "socialism", but can't repeal the ACA because American's actual like socialism.
     
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    In for a penny, in for a pound. Let's eliminate fire departments while we're at it. Whys should I have to pay for someone else's fire???
     
  25. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    My father was a firefighter, but still believes that any move towards socialism is a disaster. :D
     

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