GOP wants ISPs to record user data

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  1. Hugh macrumors 6502a

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    Okay explain to me how this is a good thing? The GOP wants ISPs to record user data for 2 years, not only that they might want the ISPs to record your e-mail other correspondents.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html?tag=topStories1

    Better watch what you do online, big brother might be watching!

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  2. Mactrillionaire macrumors regular

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    Sounds like a really slippery slope, especially considering that, according to such data, "what you do" could really be "what your infected computer does" and a court would have no way to tell the difference. There is also the issue with an IP attributing an action to an owner. This might not be the case if there are multiple users of that IP address or if it is hacked into. It's true that we need a better system for investigating claims of "wrongful internet action", but the data DEFINITELY shouldn't be freely available to any "authority" that might want to look at what is there. As a good start, any evidence collected should be in parse only accessibility. That is, you would require some piece of evidence of someone else making a particular claim to even be able to search for particular wrongdoing, rather than being able to look at whatever "authorities" would like to be able to look at.
     
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    And here I thought they were aiming to reduce the size of the federal government. :rolleyes: It's only a committee hearing so wake me up when there's legislation on the table.
     
  4. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    It may only be a hearing but I bet someone with an R next to their name plays the terrorism card in arguing for this.
     
  5. Full of Win macrumors 68030

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    ...as others have said - it is only a HEARING. No law, not draft, nothing. Moreover, as with any large party, there are separate fractions. This type of proposal (for want of a better term) would have a hard time getting past many Libertarian slanted Republicans in the GOP.
     
  6. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    It is, nevertheless, an indication that increased censorship/monitoring of internet traffic enjoys significant support in Washington. I can easily see this effort masquerading under some imagined need for "security".
     
  7. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    that could be inter sting for some sites like make temp email address. They do not log anything.

    Not that I am surprised by this but at the same time I would not exactly call it much skin off the ISPs back. More than likely they already do that any how.

    Personally I view email as private information and should have access to with out a warrant.
     
  8. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    They're called the Tea Party Republicans now.
     
  9. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Ah this makes me laugh, a poster that was not too long ago talking about how the "super majority" couldn't get anything done as if the Dems are ever united on anything. When his party of choice is in power though, suddenly the fractioning makes sense. How peculiar.

    These are the guys always touting how this is the land of the free? :rolleyes:
     
  10. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Smaller governement huh? Go to hell republicans. Do the words "illegal search and seizure" come to mind. This is unconstitutional. The part that really gets under my skin is the part about the police. Now they're going to treat every single American like a criminal. I'll add this to my list of reasons why republicans suck, hope the voters remember this one. Hey, where's fivepoint?
     
  11. MyDesktopBroke macrumors 6502

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    The GoP must hate the internet - first they come out against Net Neutrality and now this digitized PATRIOT act. I guess if it isn't talk radio . . .

    What's even worse is that Obama, given his continued support of the PATRIOT act, warrant-less wiretapping, and extraordinary rendition, might actually support it, too.
     
  12. Hugh thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I realize this is just a meeting, but if they get enough people behind it. It might not just a meeting any more. Meeting about this does scare me of what kind of state are we turning too. :/

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  13. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    That is horrible!!

    Now both political sides want to regulate the Internet!!!!:mad:
     
  14. FX120 macrumors 65816

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    I doubt it would be even technically feasible.

    Zynga moves 1 petabyte of traffic a day, and that's just one company.

    Trying to archive two years of domestic internet traffic is just such a staggeringly large number it's honestly hard to comprehend. Let alone filtering it all out to separate out the junk from "valuable information". Especially because of how many people use web mail these days.
     
  15. mscriv macrumors 601

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    Wow, kinda scary that this is even being discussed. Honestly, think about what is being said and the slippery slope. Let me argue to the absurd:

    - Legislators discuss car companies tracking where people drive for two years

    - Legislators discuss shoe companies tracking where people walk for two years

    C'mon, really... is privacy just going to become a thing of the past?
     
  16. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    When you have governments, Google and Facebook advocating for it, I'd say yes. :mad:
     
  17. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Where have you been? Want privacy, you might have luck moving to Rapanui and living in a cave. Not sure I would even count on that, though.
     
  18. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Those old GOP bastards just want to know where to get the good porn.
     
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    When I first skimmed by this topic, I thought it said "GOD wants ISPs to record user data."

    "Well I guess that's that, then," I said to myself. :D
     
  20. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    But liberals are all one alike-thinking mass of people right?
     
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    100% of us should be against this no matter what your party.
     
  22. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    There's daily flights and mobile reception even there these days ;).
     
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    Renewed, we've found something we agree on entirely. Mark the calendar :p
     
  24. Hugh, Jan 25, 2011
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    Update!

    Here is an update to the meeting that took place today. It looks like they really want to do this, but don't have an idea how. I think this might become a reality. :/

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029531-281.html?tag=topStories2

    NOTE: I did not copy and paste the beginning of the article. Just what I thought was more important. If this is not the way to do it, please forgive me.

    Hugh
     
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