The 18w charger isn't that big. Tell me why they couldn't redesign the current box (in the same size) to hold a larger charger? There's plenty of space around the current charger.
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The 18w charger isn't that big. Tell me why they couldn't redesign the current box (in the same size) to hold a larger charger? There's plenty of space around the current charger.
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Force them to buy another iPhone after their one time use.So switchers coming from Android are SOL?
I have to agree with others, if Apple wanted to not include the worthless EarPods and charging brick, that would lower the price of the iPhone, and I would be perfectly fine with that. Because almost everybody has access to charging bricks, lightning cables, etc. I’m willing to believe most consumers would have no issue with not including accessories, if that means it would lower the price of the iPhone, considering that the majority of iPhone owners, already have access to other chargers via other hardware they have from Apple.
What am I missing here?
But we are talking about a product that there are billions of already in existence. This isn't some toaster oven or whatever that has a production run of 50k units. There are literally billions of these in existence, and the environment would be much better off if those who are buying their first phone would just buy a little charging brick.
You don't need to create 500 million charging bricks a year just because 5 million people bought their first iPhone that year (numbers are made up but you get the point).
That doesn't change the part that products basically come with what they need to function. I mean there are many many tires available all over the place, but cars are still sold with new tires on them.But we are talking about a product that there are billions of already in existence. This isn't some toaster oven or whatever that has a production run of 50k units. There are literally billions of these in existence, and the environment would be much better off if those who are buying their first phone would just buy a little charging brick.
You don't need to create 500 million charging bricks a year just because 5 million people bought their first iPhone that year (numbers are made up but you get the point).
Apple will not drop prices if they stop including accessories. They've never done this before, so why would they start now? .
False. When the Series one Apple Watch was released to keep it more entry-level versus the other Apple Watch models that were more expensive, they stopped including the charging brick, and it had cheaper packaging, thus resulting in a cheaper price point.
That's not the same thing. .
Apple will not drop prices if they stop including accessories.
I don’t know if you have any experience in shipping or whatnot, but adding a few grams and/or cm per product can mean a lot when you are shipping millions of them in terms of efficiency and cost.The guy is deeply concerned about the physical size of the retail box now not just the physical size of the charger (hey, um, dude the 18w isn’t 29w colossal or anything). Good lord!
“People who care” because fast charging a massive battery is now an estoric niche desire. Guarantee you his travel bags and home are littered with fast chargers lol.
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This may be an unpopular opinion but I don’t think phone manufacturers should be bundling a charging plug of any kind (fast or otherwise) with handsets. I might change my phone every 2-3 years but I can still use my first iPhone charger from 8 years ago. The others I’ve received in box since then are just e-waste.
Lets not blame it on environmental concerns, of all things, for why they dont. Come on are you kidding?
If apple really cared, they wouldnt have parts so solidified on the macbook pro to only have like 3 service parts: the board, the top lid, and bottom case. They also wouldnt ship a retail package, it would be just the phone in an egg rate recyclable container.
Etc. etc.
1. Apple devices on average, last 4 years before being retired. This means old devices are refurbished, handed down, or sold to another user. These accessories are passed along.
2. iPhone chargers are different from other generic chargers. Apple added a few resistors to the charger to indicate it's an Apple charger. Blame Apple for not adhering to a standard.
There aren't billions of Apple chargers lying around doing nothing. This is an environmental problem that Apple helped to create. "This accessory may not be supported" error message is intended to persuade consumers to buy Apple or MFI chargers.
That doesn't change the part that products basically come with what they need to function. I mean there are many many tires available all over the place, but cars are still sold with new tires on them.
I don’t know if you have any experience in shipping or whatnot, but adding a few grams and/or cm per product can mean a lot when you are shipping millions of them in terms of efficiency and cost.
And Apple is seemingly the kind of company that is keeping these kind of things really strict. Considering their end goal is a completely wireless iPhone, they probably didn’t see any point in developing and inserting a fast charger into the production line. Heck, I expected they switched the USB-A cable-end and charger into USB-C when they were making a big deal out of it on their MacBooks, but they didn’t.
So there you go. You can keep complaining about it without anything changing, or just deal with it. To me, complaining about it is just a waste of my time so I’ll just deal with it. Having or not having a fast charger doesn’t change my behavior anyway as I just charge my phone overnight.
Not really sure that "it doesn't really make sense" given that it still makes fairly good sense.So we should just keep doing the same thing because that's the way it's always been even if it doesn't really make sense to keep doing it that way? OK.
I have worried about how fast my iPhone charges exactly zero time. If I needed a faster charger, I'd go by one. Non issue.
If I could make a healthy living by making excuses for any company's shortcomings, sign me up. I'd quit my day job.