Gun Rights Are Favored Over Gun Control For First Time In 20 Years,

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/gun-rights-poll_n_6304740.html

    glad for the shift, hope we keep gaining ground.
     
  2. TechGod macrumors 68040

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    So people want more gun related deaths?


    I'm not one to judge....
     
  3. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    some people understand that is better to have rights than it is just to be a victim.
     
  4. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Thank the ladies.

    Fastest growing demographic for gun ownership.

    2nd growing demo is black Americans. Long targeted by just about every anti-gun law introduced ever, are finally starting to realize that free is better.
     
  5. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    I love the smell of a good false dichotomy in the evening.
     
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    Exactly. More people are buying guns, and are thus exercising the rights they currently and have always had. It's not like any of them are turning around and saying "damn, it sure would be nice if our government wasn't so tyrannical, and I could run out and buy an M249 right this second cuz freedom".
     
  7. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    there are more than 2 options listed in the article.
    http://mind.ucsd.edu/syllabi/98-99/logic/falsedichotomy.html


    Amen. hope everyone is getting the proper training to go with it.
     
  8. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    But plenty of gun new gun owners are questioning the validity and sanity of the NFA registry and the process involved.

    Like why does it take a whole year to take possession after providing all the required legal documentation? Why the arbitrary distinction between a 16" barrel and 14.5" barrel?

    Why a $200 tax...because safety...
     
  9. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    full auto looks a lot like fun, but pretty freaking expensive. I have posted the link a few times to women being the ones getting their CCWs. women + the pink pistols are introducing many to the sport. guns are not just for Self defense, there are many sports you can do, my daughter like busting clays when we go.

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    God I would love a suppressed AR. or 1911. sucks we can't even have threaded barrels on our handguns
     
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    I bet they'd be fun as hell to shoot, but they wouldn't be very sporting. The only real skill to auto weapons is having the strength to hold it steady so you can keep pointing it in the general direction of what you're shooting at.

    Like clay shooting. You fire it off, then...

    RATTA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TATA-TAT

    ...GOT IT!
     
  11. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    Validity of the NFA registry? If my car needs to be registered, so does your gun. So don't even think about it. The NFA registry ain't going nowhere.
     
  12. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Does it take a year to register your car after you pay $200 dollars?
     
  13. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    No. What's your point? I'm sure there is a reason for the delay that isn't related to trying to delay the exercising of your rights. If you want to own a machine designed to end human life, be thankful you even have that right and don't bitch about the delay in the processing of it. Damn, give gun rights advocates a couple of inches and they immediately start thinking of ways to take a whole foot.
     
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    Considering your average machine gun costs over $20,000 (Plus the NFA $200), yeah waiting a year is damn ridiculous.

    And machine guns aren't the most widely item handled by the NFA. Machine gun transfers are pretty rare actually due to the high costs involved.
     
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    The foot of all feet.

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  16. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    I truly feel your pain. Oh, the injustice.

    Listen, I get it, you have a wet dream of stripping this country of all gun regulations and make the process of buying a gun similar to buying a pack of Lifesavers. It's not happening. Mkay?
     
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    Yeah, I've heard those proclamations before as state after state saw their nutty laws go down the toilet.

    And now we have this brewing...

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/13/donations-now-accepted-repeal-machinegun-ban/

    And the SBR registry became moot as pistols got around that nonense

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    Magazine ban...gone
    "assault weapon" ban...gone
    Concealed and carry states...up

    But yeah, keep hope alive...
     
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    Has nothing to do with hope, more with reality. It's just something that's simply not happening, actually, I find it adorable you have any hope that it will.

    Answer me a question, why the ******* do you need to own a machine gun? This is way beyond self defense or hunting, it's just pure douchebaggery. Do you think you should be able to own a missile defense system for your home as well?

    Amazing how quickly the extremist right went from supporting most reasonable gun regulations to attempting to repeal all forms of gun control as soon as they make a tiny bit of progress for their cause. Just because 52% of Americans support gun rights over gun regulations (relatively slim/fragile majority), doesn't mean they support repealing all gun control laws like you seem to.

    BTW, Way to spam the thread with massive photos that are completely unnecessary. Must be like porn to you. Hence the term ammosexual.
     
  19. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    LOL. Mr. State's Rights. I LOVE the hypocrisy.
     
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    I'd love to see what other predictions you've made go down in flames over the last decade.

    No gun owner cares what you think, or what you regard as valid. I think being from New Jersey period is a fatal character flaw given all the urban sprawl, landfills and racist white flight from the 5 boroughs, but no one from NJ cares what I think on the matter.

    Who is trying to repeal 4473? Pretty much no one.

    Lets see how that holds are more women and minorities get on board, as they tend to be some of the biggest victims of violence.

    Takes 12 months...

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    Takes 10 minutes

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    I call that...
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  21. orestes1984 macrumors 65816

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    Yeah because every person needs an AR without any background checks. That's the problem with people who go for lessened gun restrictions, they just don't have any common sense :rolleyes:
     
  22. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    You speak from experience? Post a pic of this weapon.

    All my AR15's required a background check and 4473 form.
     
  23. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    I love the smell of false hope in the morning. My predictions are usually spot on, Mr. State's Rights (that's your new nickname btw). :)



    LOL. Stereotype much? You make it so obvious when you get upset and offended because you start bringing up things that are completely unrelated. New Jersey, an affluent blue state with an inherently high quality of life has nothing to do with this thread. Racist? Really? :D

    BTW, I had to report your posts for spamming with oversized images that are unrelated to the point you're proving. You're making the thread annoying to scroll through for no reason.
     
  24. orestes1984 macrumors 65816

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    I don't have a weapon, but yes I speak from experience, I've lived on farms, been there and done that, we had an air riffle when I was growing up as a kid. Before the gun regulations kicked in a close family friend had an M16. You can't legally own them in Australia now pretty much.

    Well, you can get almost anything if you're in primary industry, farming or whatever and have a valid purpose for having such a weapon even here in Australia. Although semi-automatic weapons are heavily restricted.

    I just don't get the obsession with it. Never really have either, and after one gun death too many we put a clamp down on what people could get.

    I fully support people who need a weapon for a specific purpose having access to said weapons, provided they have a purpose and it goes in line with what they're doing.

    What I don't support is the jackerninies who jump up and down because its my right FREEEDDOOOMS1!!!!1!!


    No you don't need an AR in fact most people don't need NEED them either, you just WANT one and that is never a good foundation for regulations. I went through a period as a teenager and a younger adult where I liked things that went bang also we built potato guns and all kinds of other improvised rocket launchers as kids.

    It's fun, for about 15 minutes, but seriously GROW UP!
     
  25. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    The only thing you'll be smelling is gun powder as more gun laws meet their demise.


    See, told you that you wouldn't care about my thoughts on the matter, so why should any gun owner in a free state with guns care about what you think about what they need? You live in NJ, with it's high quality of life, despite being top 20 states for gun death, even with all the silly ownership restrictions.

    Blame Camden if it makes you feel better.

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    Back up your point, and I don't give two ***** about Australia's regulations, truth be told. I don't live there and they don't impact me one bit.

    You said one can go get an AR15 without a background check.

    Well here is an FFL finder: http://www.gunbroker.com/ffl/dealernetwork.aspx

    Find the one where I can walk in and out without any paper work.

    LOL yeah.
     

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