Hacker group vows to 'kill Facebook'

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  2. Theclamshell macrumors 68030

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    I like this and I don't. I think Facebook deserves it for their new chat system but alot of people use facebook and it will be a pain in the ass to have it go down. Shall be interesting to see.
     
  3. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    I don't like it. I use Facebook to contact and communicate with various clients. It's a valuable advertising tool for me.
     
  4. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    I love Facebook. I doubt this loosely organized, pathetic little group has the power to overwhelm facebook's servers...
     
  5. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    You know the group is just asking to be nailed for a long list of crimes and the bigger targets they go after the more they will be targeted.
     
  6. SactoGuy18 macrumors 68030

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    This is NOT a good idea, because it is a Federal felony to interfere with business across interstate lines. I think Facebook is well aware of this and probably put their main servers with security systems that automatically detect and re-route around DDoS attacks.
     
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  8. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    reroute and log everything. What going to happen is the ring leaders are going to be the ones targeted and it will be a fairly long list of charges brought against them. Terrorism charges will be among them.
     
  9. stevenlangley1 macrumors regular

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    No bueno! I'm not a FB addict at all, but I use it enough that this would not me cool.
     
  10. Moyank24 macrumors 601

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    A logical and preemptive solution, which is why I find it interesting that this group would pick a date and broadcast it. If they really wanted to wreak havoc why would they give Facebook a 3 month heads up?
     
  11. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    good question but then again DDOS attacks are hard to defend against because no matter what they require some bandwidth and CPU cycles to responds to it.
    The real targets will be the ring leaders since I expect bot nets to be a largest part of the attack.
     
  12. IntelliUser macrumors 6502

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    I don't think this will help change the Facebook heads' Privacidic approach, but I fully support the effort. It should be illegal for social networking sites to spread around personal info and retain it even after closure of the account.
     
  13. (marc) macrumors 6502a

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    I say **** them. By acting irresponsibly like this they instigate politicians and people to introduce more internet surveillance. They should spend their time on more valuable tasks, such as taking down the RBN, child porn sites, etc.
     
  14. leekohler macrumors G5

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    A little mischief is a lot of fun. :) It's just Facebook, not life or death.
     
  15. Andeavor macrumors 6502

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    I wouldn't mind if it got hacked or not. I've come to the conclusion that nothing is safe on the internet so I won't put too much information about me on there. And what they can gather, is pointless to use against me.

    They'd rather attack Twitter, that's useless anyway.
     
  16. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    What do they care? Just don't use it. They probably don't have any real life friends anyway, so that would be easy for them.
     
  17. Gelfin macrumors 68020

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    I'm not sympathetic to DDoS attackers, but some of the responses here are just dreadfully naive.

    Loosely organized should not be taken to imply little, and pathetic is open to interpretation, but it's going to take a lot more than derision and expression of love for Facebook to address this. Hubris is a remarkably poor security strategy. Ask HBGary.

    Yes, that certainly was a clear deterrent when they had their way with every digital orifice at Sony, and U.S. Federal law is a clear threat to those operating from overseas.

    Sure. All they need to do is reroute the EPS conduits back through the main deflector and they can generate a mu-tetrion DDoS repulsor beam. Yes indeed, those sure were nearly all words I just used there.

    There are two things you can do to weather a large-scale DDoS attack. One is to have enough resource overkill to absorb anything, and there are few companies (perhaps only one) with that kind of truly preposterous investment. The other is to shut the feck down and wait for them to go away.

    Anonymous gave notice because they can.

    Vandalizing Facebook is terrorism? I know a lot of people like to use Facebook, but is anybody really terrified by the prospect of it being unavailable for a few hours? It's this kind of hyperbole that strips important words like terrorism of any useful meaning.

    And if it were that easy, the "ringleaders" (a concept that barely makes sense in the context of Anonymous) would already be caught. They won't appear in logs, and if they did, picking them out would be like identifying a specific needle in a haystack made of needles.

    Yes and no. This sort of DDoS isn't a botnet as we've come to use the term. They don't rent time on fleets of unwitting zombie computers from Russian mobsters to accomplish this like spammers do. Individuals download and run LOIC intentionally, and although they can give away control voluntarily, it's still individuals willingly participating. The problem, as with any distributed criminal act online or off, is that tracking down and prosecuting the ten thousand people who are each responsible for on average one-ten-thousandth of the damage will actually cost more than the damage.

    You won't get ringleaders. You'll get overzealous police somewhere identifying one unlucky kid, deciding to make an example of him and claiming he's the "leader" of Anonymous in order to get their names in the papers. Then Anonymous, for its part, will keep on rolling as if nothing happened, because nearly nothing did.
     
  18. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    Seriously though whats up with the new chat it's really very annoying...

    Also now whenever I send someone a message it brings up a list of every message ever sent. Sent a message to an ex-girlfriend and it brings up a list of every thing ever said between us. Kind of awkward.

    ...I mean honestly I deleted it for a reason and now facebook brings it back for my convenience.

    Hackers ftw!
     
  19. zweigand macrumors 6502a

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    So Facebutt goes down for a couple hours/days ...my wife will be bored. In the end nothing will change. The site will come back and suck just as bad as it did before.

    So, what's the longest length of time a site has been down due to a DDoS attack?
     
  20. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    yes legally it would be consider terrorism. The entire point is to bring down facebook and cause problems.
    Just because it is not blowing something is not what terrorism is mind you that is what comes to mind. You need to remember what is defined as terrorism set the bar a lot lower after 9/11 and gives a lot more power in going after people who do it.

    Could just be they start targeting people who take part in it and use the logs to get warrants and search computers.
     
  21. Ravaroo macrumors 6502

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    life will go on with or without Facebook

    my fear is a knee jerk reaction by the Feds
    (if more & more "popular" sites are attacked)

    would hate to think a new and more aggressive Patriot Act is waiting in the wings for just such an occasion as this
     
  22. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    How can I, in some small way, help to create a new record? ;)

    I wonder how much work productivity is lost to FB every year? I would hope that System Administrators everywhere block this site.

    It is starting to sound like "The Game", on Star Trek: The Next Generation.
     
  23. tigres macrumors 68040

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    FB always sort of scared me a bit. Would not doubt the truth of selling of information tbh.
     
  24. Acorn macrumors 68020

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    I never understood the popularity of facebook. Its just not something I could ever see myself getting in too. I think for younger kids its just outright dangerous. I dont know. definitely not for me. bring it down i say.
     
  25. maril1111 macrumors 68000

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    I was thinking google was bigger and had more servers than amazon.

    Also since you seem like a person with a lot of knowledge on these things (meant as a compliment :)) how much difference is there in surfing web pages using https instead of http? E.g. Facebook?


    Back to the original question.. I think the servers would maximum be down for a couple of hours unless this group has as an extremely big botnet network with computers in a lot of different countries or is renting huge servers (bigger than facebooks) and using those to bring down the website for a longer period. But I don't think FB can be killed by just one group.
     

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