Happy Veteran's Day

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by aaronvan, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. aaronvan Suspended

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    Four more years and the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month will really be a big whoopdeedo.

    I sort of wish Congress had not replaced "Armistice" with "Veterans," though. The old name was more evocative. Well, happy Armistice (or Remembrance) Day to our Commonwealth friends, too.

    I wonder how many Americans actually ponder the day, instead of treating it just like another day off?
     
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    I'm a little bit annoyed by the fact that as a veteran, I don't have Veteran's Day off! ;-)
     
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    I'm actually working today. But since most people aren't, hopefully I have a quick commute home.
     
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    A holiday falling on a Tuesday is an odd day. I'm working today, as are many.
     
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    My father's WWII medals...
     

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bernoulli
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bernoulli
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corbusier
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Maderno
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klee
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Nestlé
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Peter
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Godard
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Rousseau
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Rorschach
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Dunant
     
  8. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    That would be un American, having FREE days, sounds like a COMMIE plot to me.:p
     
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    To a fellow engineer: Essayons!

    My late uncle was a waist gunner on a B-17 in the 15th Air Force and my grandpa was in the Navy. Both gone now, but the Greatest Generation lives on in our memory.

    Another uncle was a Marine at the Chosin Reservoir. He is still around and tells the most absolutely hair-curling stories of the Frozen Chosin.
     
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    Walk proud in this glorious celebration of beterans.
     
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    While helping clean out my grandma's house, my cousin and I ran across my father's discharge paper. I never knew he served in the Illinois National Guard in the late 1950's. Two days later he died of a sudden heart attack, so I never got the chance to talk to him about it.
     
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    Not to take anything away from veterans, I don't get the worship-like status Americans have given veterans while they couldn't care less about their problems like unemployment, homelessness, lack of healthcare etc.

    You want thank a veteran? Hire one. Go to your local homeless shelter and give time and/or money.
     
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    Mortal, I find your lack of faith in my divine status...disturbing. :D

    Yea, politicians like to talk a good game but the state of the VA tells you how much they really care.
     
  15. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Same here.
     
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    My grandfather on my dads side served as a commissioned officer in the Greek resistance forces after being abandoned by the British during World War II in the battle for Africa. He never did really talk about it much. My mums dad was a cook and served in New Guinea during World War II.

    We must remember what they fought for, not the war itself.
     
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    A true story:

    http://acaptainslog.blogspot.com/2008/07/fallen-soldier_04.html

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/pilot.asp

    It's times like this where instead of being entirely solemn, we should make it a celebration. The Kiwis have this down, especially with their fallen, and performing the Haka for their farewell to a fallen comrade. With that, enjoy.



    BL.
     
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    NO, just merely attacking someone on the left who appears to not show respect for veterans at ALLTIMES is enough to show how much I and only I care about veterans despite not showing anything to back it up.

    I'm not too keen on the military, but I thank the veterans of course.
     
  19. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    A day to recognize an American Vet somehow twists into "worship-like status" in your mind? The average American, in my experience, hardly recognizes any "federal" holiday much less elevates a Vet into worship status. Outside a few news stories and some outstanding business that generously offer a free meal in recognition, most people I know who recognize it are other Vets. I got a call and a couple emails yesterday and they were all from other Vets.

    Frankly, I see being a Vet as a club I join years ago and and experience I shared with many brothers and sisters. If you're not a Vet you're not less of a person, you're just outside the circle for the day.
     
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    Agreed, but on the other side of that coin, being a Vet shouldn't be used against someone who isn't nor hasn't served.

    Case in point, I was let go from a job, which I was holding down 3 positions at the same time, by someone who told me that I was being let go because I wasn't disciplined enough to be earlier to work on time, like himself and another co-worker because they were taught discipline by being in the military.. all despite I was working well off into the night and not being able to see my wife.

    While I love and respect all veterans in this country and the world, that guy's words and reasoning put a sour taste in my mouth. It is one thing to thank them for their service; it's another when someone uses their vet status as some part of a caste system where they think by being vets, they are better than others.

    BL.
     
  21. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Your minor little experience hardly warrants "worship status" on American Vets.

    But don't despair, Veteran's day and the Marine Corps birthday has come and gone, you can be back in the circle now.
     
  22. bradl macrumors 68040

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    No, but some vets do consider themselves to be of a more elite status than others simply because they are vets. Therein lies the problem.

    I signed up for USAF and USN as my choices when signing up for Selective Service when I was 18 (IIRC, their slogan was: "It's quick, it's easy, and it's the law"). For both I was deemed medically ineligible to serve; not because I didn't want to serve, but because medically, I couldn't.

    Someone who did serve should not hold their veteran status over my head as a reason why I'm not like them nor work for them, when I was doing that position and then some. If that is how vets are, then there is a problem with how some vets hold themselves in regard to others around them.

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  23. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Oh, for crying out loud. Your extreme outlier experience of "some" vets this and "some" vets that justifies your little worship-like status rant? I gotta be honest with you, you're working your way back out of the circle.
     
  24. bradl macrumors 68040

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    All I am saying is that people shouldn't be fired from their jobs and be given the excuse of that it is because you "don't have the disciplinary training like X and I do because we were in the military", especially in a country where we all are supposed to be equal. That implies a sense of superiority/inferiority between those who served and those who didn't. For some people, veterans are the closest some people will get to ever being in the military or having that experience, and to be told that they aren't disciplined like them does not give a good impression to others.

    This is no slight on or insult to you, your experience, or your service; this is about image and lasting impressions some people in the military leave onto others. The vets I worked with have the problem, and they need to get over themselves. I worked and still work with other vets, and they don't act like this.

    If that bothers you or you take offense to that, then be the leader and set the example to show others that they shouldn't be or act like that. If I run into a child who doesn't like fathers because theirs ran out on them and refuses to have anything to do with their lives, the best way I can show them that not all fathers are like that is to be the best father I can to my children and help and show them that not all fathers are like that.

    Same applies here. Veterans are great because of their service, but that doesn't mean they are infallible.

    BL.
     
  25. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    It's fortunate I'm a patient self-absorbed Veteran. My ruling is you're still in the circle, until next Veteran's Day. But I'll be keeping my eye on you.
     

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