Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows - WITH SPOILERS

iBlue

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Thread for those who are reading or have read the book and want to discuss.


IDEA - for those who are simply part-way through and would like to participate...

Write where you are in the book (the chapter) and then put your potential spoilers in white text.

Like so:

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Chapter ___

highlight for spoiler:

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah


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(there's no real spoiler up there, by the way)

So if someone reading is not there yet, they won't have it spoiled for them.

Please be courteous. :)
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Sobe

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no spoiler here of any kind.

I just finished the book and absolutely loved it.

Took me 7 hours but I did it :D:D:D

Masterpiece.
 

IndyGopher

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It was fun, but I was hoping there would be some twists... can't say it was completely predictable, but neither did I feel there were any shocking surprises. Time well spent, though.
 

Applespider

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Of the 'major' characters, you forgot...

Hedwig

Others who have been around in a few books...
Crabbe (although I'd never thought he was supposed to be that great a magic to manage Fiendfyre)
Colin Creevey (who survived the Basilisk to die here)


I finished the book a few hours ago and have been mulling thoughts (hidden below)

I enjoyed it enormously. I liked the way that some old threads from the past crept in and which, now we know the ending, going back to reread old books will show those clues - the locket in the cabinet at Grimmauld Place, the tiara in the room of requirement.

Wasn't entirely sure about the Hallows suddenly appearing as a plot device... and them switching from being the focus to not and back again...

Got a little confused over the number of Horcruxes. I'd thought that in Book 6, they said there were 6 Horcruxes and the seventh part of his soul was still with Voldemort's body? So... the diary, the ring, the locket, the cup, the tiara and Harry (inadvertently) makes six so why was Nagini still one? Or was the idea that Nagini was number 6 and then the seventh part of Voldemort's soul split again into 7 (Harry) and 8 (himself)?

I was impressed that Rowling managed to keep Harry an unblemished hero. He's survived all 7 books without killing anyone himself and proving that mercy is a worthwhile virtue. I suspect most of us thought that he might have to kill Voldemort or be killed (and Rowling played with the reader's mind on that one)

I was in two minds over the epilogue. Part of me thinks it was smart since now we know where Harry is in 19 years time, Rowling can avoid the urging to write book 8 to tell us what happens next. But part of me doesn't like all the ends completely tied off... speculation and just wondering can be fun too. The only loose ends I can think of is whether Hermione did go back and collect her parents from Australia and lift the charm and whether Harry did become an Auror.

A friend thought that the quotes at the beginning showed it wasn't a book for kids any longer. I agree mostly but I don't think it could have been. Those who read the first few Harry books have grown up and pitching it back to 11 year olds wouldn't have flown. I'm sure the Harry Potter books will be read for many years to come by new generations of kids but it will never be quite the same since now we all know there's a happy ending.

I thought that Rowling did a pretty good job of completing the saga with what were pretty high expectations from her readers. I'm sad it's over but glad it finished well.


Gosh... that was longer than expected :eek:
 

d_and_n5000

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Got a little confused over the number of Horcruxes. I'd thought that in Book 6, they said there were 6 Horcruxes and the seventh part of his soul was still with Voldemort's body? So... the diary, the ring, the locket, the cup, the tiara and Harry (inadvertently) makes six so why was Nagini still one? Or was the idea that Nagini was number 6 and then the seventh part of Voldemort's soul split again into 7 (Harry) and 8 (himself)?
more spoilers below...surprise surprise

The idea was that the diary, ring, locket, cup, diadem, and Nagini were the six Horcruxes. However, Harry wound up being an inadvertant seventh horcrux due to Voldemort's soul being so fragile due to being torn apart so many times. Then, when Harry got shot with the Killing Curse, the presence of Harry's, and therefore Lily's, blood in Voldemort(remember GOF?) caused it to rebound on Voldemort, which served to kill the portion of Voldemort's soul in Harry, then kill Voldemort once and for all.
 

Applespider

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I'd figured it out by the end. It was just on first reading I was a little puzzled about the number of Horcruxes since I counted once the news came out about Harry and got to 7. When I realised that Nagini was still a Horcrux, I figured Harry was an inadvertent 7th Horcrux. Just wanted to check that was the case!
 

SactoGuy18

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By the way, a couple of "red herring" surprises:

1) The Deathly Hallows are NOT Voldemort's Horcruxes.

2) The unusual symbol on the spine of the Bloomsbury children's edition is not what you think.

Rowling had us ALL fooled by thinking that the Hallows were the Horcruxes and the symbol being related to Voldemort.


All in all, I really did enjoy the book, though I thought the Epilogue felt a bit "tacked on."
 

twistedlegato

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Ahhh....just finished it!


Hightlight to read:

Wonderful book, though i found it very bland in the middle, the part when they are camping and kept going on fore ever and ever.
I loved hearing Albus's life as a kid, and the story about his sister:(. The fact that Dobby died bothered me a lot...His death was so unexpected.
 

weckart

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The first few chapters were ropey. Her writing seemed to deteriorate, if anything, but it got better when the action kicked in, although younger readers will probably find the plot twists too confusing. I'm glad it was a bloodbath, rather than everyone's living happy ever after.

The epilogue is beyond dreadful, however, and was probably written at the time of the first book.
 

Sobe

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I'm usually not overly sentimental at all, but due to the anonymity of the 'net I can admit I was pretty choked up there...anyone else get a little ummm emotional at the end?

=D

The first few chapters were ropey. Her writing seemed to deteriorate, if anything, but it got better when the action kicked in, although younger readers will probably find the plot twists too confusing. I'm glad it was a bloodbath, rather than everyone's living happy ever after.

The epilogue is beyond dreadful, however, and was probably written at the time of the first book.
I loved the epilogue.
 

psycoswimmer

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Wow. I just finished it 10 minutes ago. I'm in shock that it's over.

I'm at a loss for words... It was just a great book.

J.K. Rowling said before that she couldn't reveal the specifics of her religion, because the plot tied in so closely with it. It did. Harry, the savior, "dying", "returning" to life, and getting rid of Voldemort (Satan) without using Avada Kedavra.

I liked the Epilogue, as this was obviously what Rowling had in mind for her characters all along. She did close of future speculation about them, in a way. However, you can still guess who is the headmaster of Hogwarts, what professions came out of Harry, Hermione, Ron, Ginny, and Luna, (Neville is the Herbology teacher), and what happened to the old professors. Also, to Applespider, I believe that Hermione would have gone to Australia and fetched her parents. That was her original plan, and I don't see why she would stray from it.

Another thing that I would like to know (and what will now be speculated, I'm sure), is more information on the Weasleys. It's shown that Percy comes back to the family, and you can guess that they would all return to being a happy family, etc. However I was wondering what would've happened to Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes. I think that George would've continued the shop on, and I believe Fred would've wanted him to.
 

BigPrince

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I didn't really enjoy the book. I think part of the reason was because I knew reading into it that it would be the last.

Jumps into the action rather quick but then it dies off for a long while.

I got confused during some parts and had to reread, especially at the end.

I am glad it did answer alot of questions and it was worth reading, but it wasnt the same for me.
 

absolut_mac

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Thread for those who are reading or have read the book and want to discuss.
Thanks for the thread iBlue.

Although I haven't read any of the books, or even seen the movies for that matter, my daughter was bursting with curiosity to read the spoilers - specifically, who got axed. So a big thanks from her too.
 

AlBDamned

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I really enjoyed it and also read it all in one sitting yesteday.

Thought the middle dragged a bit, but overall it was a really good finale, and I was really happy Snape and Dumbledore were both vindicated.

It's going to be one hell of a film with that last battle
!

The queue in Borders was pretty funny/stupid, as about 300 people at any one time had to queue up to pay, then queue up again to pick the book up. They had staff with real Owls and Snakes in the store to 'entertain'. I was also listening to my iPod for most of the queues just in case some a/wipe shouted out the book ending in the store!
 

gauchogolfer

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I have to admit, one of the things that I didn't see coming was:

the fact that both Lupin and Tonks died, leaving behind an orphaned Teddy. I thought that at least one of them would have survived. It's fitting that Harry (being an orphan himself) made mention in the epilogue of taking him into the family.

I too was happy to see that Snape was vindicated, which was my suspicion after HBP.


Oh, and rather than use "White" as the color, you should use "#fafafa", as this is truly invisible in the forum posting.
 

AlBDamned

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I have to admit, one of the things that I didn't see coming was:

the fact that both Lupin and Tonks died, leaving behind an orphaned Teddy.
Did anyone else have to re-read that section? I think the casualness and awkwardness with which that was written and we learned about those two...it felt like an editing mistake?