Has the Iphone 4S failed?

gadget123

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Looking back it improved very little on the Iphone 4. I upgraded and and the battery life is alot worse. The Iphone 4 basically does the same but cheaper and from what I read there's less demand for the 4S now the hype has gone.

I mean it probably still did ok but really the Iphone 5 can't come fast enough. You don't notice the faster processor in the 4S casually using it and the camera is hopeless at night due to lack of decent flash. It's not a bad daytime camera though. Siri is hopeless something you never use or need.

I know some will say the 4S is great but I think alot here will realise the 4 is good but we need an Iphone 5 with some fresh ideas.

(Just to add to the battery thing it drops randomly % some days but not all. 3G will drain it in about 3 hours and general use lasts about one day or a day and a half vs the Iphone 4 same use I got about 3 days).
 

Xgm541

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Not where I live (NY). Everyone has a 4s now that its available on 3 carriers. Wouldnt call it a failure.

My battery life is the same as my i4. Perhaps your battery is faulty, go get it checked out!
 

saintforlife

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Seems like you are having buyers remorse. Anybody that did even a small amount of research knew that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to upgrade from the iPhone 4 to the 4S, except a very small minority of people who really had to have Siri and the 8 MP camera. Unless of course you were upgrading from the 3G or 3GS, then it made sense to go with the 4S. When you get a speed bump anyway with every generation, it only makes sense to be in the upgrade cycle where you know you are also getting new hardware with the phone. People on the 3G-4-5 cycle are in the best shape.
 

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Looking back it improved very little on the Iphone 4. I upgraded and and the battery life is alot worse. The Iphone 4 basically does the same but cheaper and from what I read there's less demand for the 4S now the hype has gone.

I mean it probably still did ok but really the Iphone 5 can't come fast enough. You don't notice the faster processor in the 4S casually using it and the camera is hopeless at night due to lack of decent flash. It's not a bad daytime camera though. Siri is hopeless something you never use or need.

I know some will say the 4S is great but I think alot here will realise the 4 is good but we need an Iphone 5 with some fresh ideas.

(Just to add to the battery thing it drops randomly % some days but not all. 3G will drain it in about 3 hours and general use lasts about one day or a day and a half vs the Iphone 4 same use I got about 3 days).
NO! Look at the sales figures, when it first came out and today. A fair and balanced look would make anyone answer your question with "No."
 

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I wouldn't call it a failure either. It's the most amazing iPhone yet. And the only phone that has a lovable artificial intelligence living inside of it. :)
 

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Seems like you are having buyers remorse. Anybody that did even a small amount of research knew that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to upgrade from the iPhone 4 to the 4S, except a very small minority of people who really had to have Siri and the 8 MP camera. Unless of course you were upgrading from the 3G or 3GS, then it made sense to go with the 4S. When you get a speed bump anyway with every generation, it only makes sense to be in the upgrade cycle where you know you are also getting new hardware with the phone. People on the 3G-4-5 cycle are in the best shape.
I usually buy a sim free upgrade every year use to do it with Sony Ericsson.

Just they released big updates. I'd probably have felt flat with the first Iphone to the 3G to 3GS? What was the upgrades apart from video and 3 mega pixel camera?
 

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Continued record sales on all 3 carriers does not equal failure.

You may not care for the speed bump, camera upgrade, or Siri, but there are plenty who do as the numbers show.

I would even go so far to say that those on the 3GS/ 4S/ whatever is after the next upgrade are on the better upgrade path since they get phones after the bugs are worked out.
 

saintforlife

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The processor and RAM upgrade from 3G to 3GS was huge. Made a lot of difference in speed and overall smoothness of operation. 3G couldn't handle iOS 4, but 3GS can still run iOS 5 pretty well.
 

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Every iPhone but the iPhone 4 has pretty much been a slightly better version of the last one. I'm not sure why people were expecting that to change with the iPhone 4S. Other than an improved processor, better camera, better display, and better battery what more is there to keep adding on to the hardware each year?

iOS is where improvements need to be made. Notifications are better but not perfect and parts of the OS, like the Settings app and Safari, need to be modernized. Also, how about making the lock screen less useless? Here's to hoping that iOS 6 involves a lot of polishing and changes.
 

kre62

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Seems like you are having buyers remorse. Anybody that did even a small amount of research knew that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to upgrade from the iPhone 4 to the 4S, except a very small minority of people who really had to have Siri and the 8 MP camera. Unless of course you were upgrading from the 3G or 3GS, then it made sense to go with the 4S. When you get a speed bump anyway with every generation, it only makes sense to be in the upgrade cycle where you know you are also getting new hardware with the phone. People on the 3G-4-5 cycle are in the best shape.
Absolutely wrong my friend. 3G and 4 users are riding on old tech. The 3G used the same insides as iPhone1. The 4 used the same insides as the 3GS.

3GS-4S-5S users are in the best cycle, always latest tech.
 
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cynics

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I don't have any of those issue. Flash works great, I use Siri, my battery last 7 - 8 hours of usage with days of standby and it's processor will future proof it some bit.
 

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Although the 4S was only an incremental upgrade largely for the purpose of pumping up Apples already amazing profits, it is clearly not a failure.

By using the same design two years in a row, Apple reaped huge cost savings. No one enjoys all the attention more than Apple, and Americans especially, are people who worship money.

Apple is nothing if not incredibly good at creating profit margins other companies can only dream of.
 

DroidRules

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Title should be "Has this thread failed?"

All the other posters already gave all the logical reasons why you're just silly so I won't go into that too.

Absolutely wrong my friend. 3G and 4 users are riding on ond tech. The 3G used the same insides as iPhone1. The 4 used the same insides as the 3GS.

3GS-4S-5S users are in the best cycle, always latest tech.
How about those that upgrade every year? I'm riding the new tech wave.... wooooooooohooooooooo.
 

aneftp

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Absolutely wrong my friend. 3G and 4 users are riding on ond tech. The 3G used the same insides as iPhone1. The 4 used the same insides as the 3GS.

3GS-4S-5S users are in the best cycle, always latest tech.
Huh?

iPhone 4 (retina display), 512MB RAM, plus 1GZ processor, 5MP camera
iPhone 3GS (320x480 display), 256MB RAM, 624MHZ processor, 3MP camera

The 4 was probably the first total redesign of iPhone since 2007 (the original iPhone).
 

irod87

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Failed??? Hardly. People are still activating like crazy. Now the hype around the iPhone on Sprint has died down.
 

Jordan921

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Looking back it improved very little on the Iphone 4. I upgraded and and the battery life is alot worse. The Iphone 4 basically does the same but cheaper and from what I read there's less demand for the 4S now the hype has gone.

I mean it probably still did ok but really the Iphone 5 can't come fast enough. You don't notice the faster processor in the 4S casually using it and the camera is hopeless at night due to lack of decent flash. It's not a bad daytime camera though. Siri is hopeless something you never use or need.

I know some will say the 4S is great but I think alot here will realise the 4 is good but we need an Iphone 5 with some fresh ideas.

(Just to add to the battery thing it drops randomly % some days but not all. 3G will drain it in about 3 hours and general use lasts about one day or a day and a half vs the Iphone 4 same use I got about 3 days).
I wouldn't call the 4S a failure seeing as it is still selling pretty well
 

DerekRod

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Seeing as its on the Big Three carriers in the US and apple cut the crap with the exclusives and opened up to more carriers theyre selling like crazy.Friends of mine who were always going on about droid and Blackberries all have iPhones the only downside is I have more people asking me questions about iOS now :D
 

jeremyshaw

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Huh?

iPhone 4 (retina display), 512MB RAM, plus 1GZ processor, 5MP camera
iPhone 3GS (320x480 display), 256MB RAM, 624MHZ processor, 3MP camera

The 4 was probably the first total redesign of iPhone since 2007 (the original iPhone).
If you look at it from another POV, the iPhone 4 used an overclocked iPhone 3GS SoC, and the performance difference showed. The Retina display (960x640) bogged down the old chip, and it made the iPhone 4 (at native res), lower performing vs the iPhone 3GS.

CPU speeds, you already listed, GPU clocks:
3GS (SGX535): 150MHz
4 (SGX535): 200MHz