Has the Iphone 4S failed?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by gadget123, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. gadget123 macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Looking back it improved very little on the Iphone 4. I upgraded and and the battery life is alot worse. The Iphone 4 basically does the same but cheaper and from what I read there's less demand for the 4S now the hype has gone.

    I mean it probably still did ok but really the Iphone 5 can't come fast enough. You don't notice the faster processor in the 4S casually using it and the camera is hopeless at night due to lack of decent flash. It's not a bad daytime camera though. Siri is hopeless something you never use or need.

    I know some will say the 4S is great but I think alot here will realise the 4 is good but we need an Iphone 5 with some fresh ideas.

    (Just to add to the battery thing it drops randomly % some days but not all. 3G will drain it in about 3 hours and general use lasts about one day or a day and a half vs the Iphone 4 same use I got about 3 days).
  2. Xgm541 macrumors 65816

    May 3, 2011
    Not where I live (NY). Everyone has a 4s now that its available on 3 carriers. Wouldnt call it a failure.

    My battery life is the same as my i4. Perhaps your battery is faulty, go get it checked out!
  3. saintforlife macrumors 65816

    Feb 25, 2011
    Seems like you are having buyers remorse. Anybody that did even a small amount of research knew that there was absolutely no reason for anyone to upgrade from the iPhone 4 to the 4S, except a very small minority of people who really had to have Siri and the 8 MP camera. Unless of course you were upgrading from the 3G or 3GS, then it made sense to go with the 4S. When you get a speed bump anyway with every generation, it only makes sense to be in the upgrade cycle where you know you are also getting new hardware with the phone. People on the 3G-4-5 cycle are in the best shape.
  4. TallGuy1970 macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2010
    NO! Look at the sales figures, when it first came out and today. A fair and balanced look would make anyone answer your question with "No."
  5. motoleo macrumors 6502a


    Jan 27, 2012
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    I wouldn't call it a failure either. It's the most amazing iPhone yet. And the only phone that has a lovable artificial intelligence living inside of it. :)
  6. gadget123 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    I usually buy a sim free upgrade every year use to do it with Sony Ericsson.

    Just they released big updates. I'd probably have felt flat with the first Iphone to the 3G to 3GS? What was the upgrades apart from video and 3 mega pixel camera?
  7. cyks macrumors 68020


    Jul 24, 2002
    Westchester County, NY
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    Continued record sales on all 3 carriers does not equal failure.

    You may not care for the speed bump, camera upgrade, or Siri, but there are plenty who do as the numbers show.

    I would even go so far to say that those on the 3GS/ 4S/ whatever is after the next upgrade are on the better upgrade path since they get phones after the bugs are worked out.
  8. saintforlife macrumors 65816

    Feb 25, 2011
    The processor and RAM upgrade from 3G to 3GS was huge. Made a lot of difference in speed and overall smoothness of operation. 3G couldn't handle iOS 4, but 3GS can still run iOS 5 pretty well.
  9. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
    Every iPhone but the iPhone 4 has pretty much been a slightly better version of the last one. I'm not sure why people were expecting that to change with the iPhone 4S. Other than an improved processor, better camera, better display, and better battery what more is there to keep adding on to the hardware each year?

    iOS is where improvements need to be made. Notifications are better but not perfect and parts of the OS, like the Settings app and Safari, need to be modernized. Also, how about making the lock screen less useless? Here's to hoping that iOS 6 involves a lot of polishing and changes.
  10. sparky1499 macrumors regular


    Oct 5, 2008
    Glasgow, UK
    How exactly did you figure that out?

    I got a 3GS in late 2009 and got a 4S on launch day. How exactly are 3G-4 users in 'best shape'?

    I'd like to understand your reckoning in that if you don't mind.
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    ap3604 macrumors 68000

    Jan 11, 2011
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    kre62 macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    Absolutely wrong my friend. 3G and 4 users are riding on old tech. The 3G used the same insides as iPhone1. The 4 used the same insides as the 3GS.

    3GS-4S-5S users are in the best cycle, always latest tech.
  13. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    I don't have any of those issue. Flash works great, I use Siri, my battery last 7 - 8 hours of usage with days of standby and it's processor will future proof it some bit.
  14. ixodes macrumors 601


    Jan 11, 2012
    Pacific Coast, USA
    Although the 4S was only an incremental upgrade largely for the purpose of pumping up Apples already amazing profits, it is clearly not a failure.

    By using the same design two years in a row, Apple reaped huge cost savings. No one enjoys all the attention more than Apple, and Americans especially, are people who worship money.

    Apple is nothing if not incredibly good at creating profit margins other companies can only dream of.
  15. sparky1499 macrumors regular


    Oct 5, 2008
    Glasgow, UK
  16. labman macrumors 604


    Jun 9, 2009
    Mich near Detroit
    my 4s is fine worked 14 hour days and still have battery life left. Beter signal strength then my I4 had. So for me no
  17. DroidRules macrumors 65816

    Aug 10, 2010
    Title should be "Has this thread failed?"

    All the other posters already gave all the logical reasons why you're just silly so I won't go into that too.

    How about those that upgrade every year? I'm riding the new tech wave.... wooooooooohooooooooo.
  18. Bradllez macrumors 6502


    Mar 3, 2012
  19. Nukemkb macrumors 6502a


    Mar 12, 2006
    Columbia, SC
  20. aneftp macrumors 601

    Jul 28, 2007

    iPhone 4 (retina display), 512MB RAM, plus 1GZ processor, 5MP camera
    iPhone 3GS (320x480 display), 256MB RAM, 624MHZ processor, 3MP camera

    The 4 was probably the first total redesign of iPhone since 2007 (the original iPhone).
  21. irod87 macrumors regular

    Jan 25, 2012
    Failed??? Hardly. People are still activating like crazy. Now the hype around the iPhone on Sprint has died down.
  22. Mliii macrumors 65816


    Jan 28, 2006
    Southern California
    I'd like to have a dollar for every one of these "failed" phones they've sold...:D
  23. Jordan921 macrumors 68040


    Jul 7, 2010
    Bay Area
    I wouldn't call the 4S a failure seeing as it is still selling pretty well
  24. DerekRod macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2012
    Seeing as its on the Big Three carriers in the US and apple cut the crap with the exclusives and opened up to more carriers theyre selling like crazy.Friends of mine who were always going on about droid and Blackberries all have iPhones the only downside is I have more people asking me questions about iOS now :D
  25. jeremyshaw macrumors 6502

    Oct 29, 2011
    If you look at it from another POV, the iPhone 4 used an overclocked iPhone 3GS SoC, and the performance difference showed. The Retina display (960x640) bogged down the old chip, and it made the iPhone 4 (at native res), lower performing vs the iPhone 3GS.

    CPU speeds, you already listed, GPU clocks:
    3GS (SGX535): 150MHz
    4 (SGX535): 200MHz

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