Have you beaten Mac Chess?

Discussion in 'Games' started by The_Dood, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. The_Dood macrumors member

    Feb 10, 2004
    There was another thread about beating chess that ended last year, but I'm just curious if there's anyone out there recently who has beaten the computer in a game of chess? I was always unbeatable when playing against my friends, but so far I'm something like 0 for 40 against the damn machine, and its always a fast death. :eek:
  2. phonemonkey macrumors regular

    Feb 21, 2004
    Nope, I'm not terrible, but even at the lower levels i find it extremely difficult.
  3. wordmunger macrumors 603


    Sep 3, 2003
    North Carolina
    No. I have never, ever beat any sort of computerized chess game. If chess wasn't so boring, I might make it my mission in life to finally beat the computer.
  4. johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030


    Sep 18, 2003
    London, UK
    I'm pretty sure that game will beat the world's number one and the best chess computer there is (contradiction of sorts!)!!!!

    And I've got it on the default "easy" setting (slider most of the way to left). I'm not too bad at chess either. So far, neither me, my brother or my dad have managed to beat it. It comes up with some very clever moves and never falls for anything.
  5. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    I have been trying 1 game a day for a while now and nada. I've come close (down to pawns and Kings) but the damn thing always wins in the end.

    I haven't given up :D

  6. Mantat macrumors 6502a

    Sep 19, 2003
    Montréal (Canada)
    I almost won one time and got distracted which resulted in my death 3 round afterward...

    When you play againts a human, you can count on him to do one mistake during the course of the game. With the computer, you cant and even worst: if you do a mistake, it will see it and use it againts you!

    Good luck!
  7. cmunger macrumors newbie

    Feb 27, 2003
    Are you talking about "MacChess", or "Chess"?

    Are you talking about "MacChess", or "Chess"?. In MacChess, I can beat it perdictably at Easy Level Four. Hah! (I started at Easy Level One, but you can set it at an even easier level: Random Moves!!!)

    (Plus, MacChess is just a much sweeter game to play then Chess.)
  8. russed macrumors 68000


    Jan 16, 2004
    i have tried and failed many many times, so i have given up trying as chess is boring!
  9. flyfish29 macrumors 68020


    Feb 4, 2003
    New HAMpshire
    Is macchess the one that comes with the iMac's? IF so, I have never come close...either way I have never come close. :(
  10. sonofslim macrumors 6502a


    Jun 6, 2003
    i heard it cheats and moves pieces when you're not looking.
  11. mikeyredk macrumors 65816

    Mar 13, 2003
    yesterday i was driving from school with a couple of buds in the car they were playing on my mac to pass time (5 hour drive which i did all of the driving)

    so they played about 4-5 games they never one a single game they also cheated by taking back some moves
    one of them was a 3rd board on his chess team in high school
  12. noel4r macrumors 6502a

    Jul 17, 2002
    Los Angeles
  13. whocares macrumors 65816


    Oct 9, 2002
    I suggest a Chess tournament: let's get our Macs playing against each other and see who has the brightess Mac :p :D :D

    Kasparov disqualified on the grounds that he will beat the crap out of every Mac. :eek:
  14. cmunger macrumors newbie

    Feb 27, 2003
    Get it straight: MacChess vs Chess

    "MacChess" is a free download (Download.com), that runs in Classic, and has levels that you can actually beat, and work your way up to harder levels. It will give you hints, and easily lets you flip board, take back moves etc.

    "Chess" is the app that comes with OSX, and that, even in the EASIEST setting, hardly anyone has ever beaten. No wonder it seems boring.
  15. virividox macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    Manila - Nottingham - Philadelphia - Santa Barbar
    iv seen it done once, but this person didnt play the game in a aday it was over a period of weeks where each move they would carefully study with chess books hehe
  16. zyuzin4 macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2002
    Eugene, OR
    haha, this is good to know. I thought I was really crappy for always losing out to the cpu on easy. Never have won
  17. Gymnut macrumors 68000


    Apr 18, 2003
    I did beat the chess application that comes with all new Mac's, once. Even tho I'm like 1-500 against it I did get my one victory.
  18. &RU macrumors member

    Mar 5, 2004
    Chess Cheats.

    The last time I played, it cheated. I placed the computer in check mate, and promptly jumped up and celebrated with one of the greatest victory dances ever to be seen by man - fortunately I was alone at the time. Upon my return, my mac thumbed its nose at me and proceeded to castle out of checkmate. Which is entirely illegal where I come from - maybe it plays by Aussie rules.

    Needless to say I have not played since... cheater.
  19. absolut_mac macrumors 6502a


    Oct 30, 2003
    Dallas, Texas
    The world's top players consistently beat the world's best chess programs, regardless of what computer they're running on.

    Check out Garry Kasparov's last tournement against the top chess program (Fritz).


    Just enter Kasparov as white and the year 2003, select his game against Fritz where the score is 1-0, and watch a chess master destroy the computer :D

    The programs have two advantages against these top players - they never make mistakes (even the top players slip up occasionally) and they don't get tired.
  20. Les Kern macrumors 68040

    Les Kern

    Apr 26, 2002
    Yes, and here is how:
    Like most computer chess games, they tend to flounder around when there is no clear move that will increase it's odds of winning. So, try to limit it's good moves not by being unconventional (because it will destroy you) but rather by laying traps where it cannot gain advantage no matter where it moves. While it goes nutty, you slowly set a winning offense. There are a lot of methods, but I use the "pawn wall" by advancing with Queen-side pawns. Be sure to cover the forward pawns with Queen, bishop and knight, making a self-contained box for it to move in circles. NEVER use Sicilian anything. Controlling the middle only will eventually see you dead. At least I have never won using that method. (FYI: I HAD a master ranking, but gave up because tournament chess is detrimental to your physical AND mental health!)
  21. agreenster macrumors 68000


    Dec 6, 2001
    Walt Disney Animation Studios
    Wow. You know a lot about chess. I know the general rules. I guess I've always just seen it as a finite game to a certiain extent. At some point, someone shall discover the unbeatable method. Umm. At least, thats what I think. Umm. Yep.
  22. Les Kern macrumors 68040

    Les Kern

    Apr 26, 2002
    That's kind. But in the "chess world" I am little more than an idiot! It's like golf. Best game ever, and I'm not bad. But compared to a pro I might as well be bowling.
    One other thing, I learned computer chess vulnerabilities by watching Kasparov play Deep Blue a long time ago. A few months ago he played another, more advanced computer, and the tecnique was VERY well documented during (if I recall correctly) the third game, which Kasparov won. Do a Google and get the move list and you will see.
  23. Les Kern macrumors 68040

    Les Kern

    Apr 26, 2002
    For those interested (okay, there MAY be a few of you!), I found the link that will explain what I mentioned above, and you can play the game itself (Almost makes me want to start playing again... nah. But it MIGHT help you beat the Mac):
    (Select Game 3)
    And a quote from the analysis:
    "Ironically, X3D Fritz was reaching incredible search depths because there are so few legal moves in this closed position. It was like casting a powerful searchlight into a black hole. Even reaching 19 half-moves ahead it couldn't find the essential plan."
  24. MrMacMan macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2001
    1 Block away from NYC.
    Yeah I've beaten it in the unstable Os 10.2 version... (did they revamp it in panther)...

    I've never beat it based on my own very low skill level... I am horrible, ech.
  25. Fabrix2003 macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2003
    Cheshire UK
    yeah i beat it once but never again it is a pain in the bum, make it more fun though by using the voice commands to move your pieces and take opponents pieces although be on your own when doing it people think ur wird talking to your mac. :(

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