Haven’t upgraded yet. Am I being a big fat *****?

[BigBoy2018]

Hey Comrads. I’m still on high Sierra for my primary drive, I’ve got Mojave on my secondary ‘test’ drive. I do a lot of video editing with Premiere 2017 and also use After Effects 2017 as well (I find both have much better performance than the subsequent versions).
I also play a few old games (Defense Grid, which I know doesn’t work right in Mojave).
At the same time I feel like it’s time to make the jump on my primary drive, but even now, with it at the .4 iteration, I still can’t seem to pull the trigger.

So am I just being a big fat *****?

 

[fisherking]

why are you asking the forum? it's a decision you should make yourself. here, you'll just get endless opinions, and you'll still have to make up your own mind.

anyway, my advice: go for it. or not...

 

[Juicy Box]

I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, and I might never.

Logically, the best reasons to upgrade are to have access to new features, performance and security improvements, and better compatibility.

I don't really see a need to upgrade at this time.

Imo, Mojave doesn't have must-have features, performance would probably be the same or suffer by upgrading, HS is still getting security updates, and compatibility doesn't improve by upgrading.

So, I don't see the point to upgrade. Others might have different opinions on the matter though.

 

[BigBoy2018]

why are you asking the forum? it's a decision you should make yourself. here, you'll just get endless opinions, and you'll still have to make up your own mind.

anyway, my advice: go for it. or not...

Good point. I was just really hoping someone could make me feel better about the decision to upgrade or not. Disregard, lol.

 

[fisherking]

I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, and I might never.

Logically, the best reasons to upgrade are to have access to new features, performance and security improvements, and better compatibility.

I don't really see a need to upgrade at this time.

Imo, Mojave doesn't have must-have features, performance would probably be the same or suffer by upgrading, HS is still getting security updates, and compatibility doesn't improve by upgrading.

So, I don't see the point to upgrade. Others might have different opinions on the matter though.

performance? security? better compatibility? those seem like pretty good reasons to upgrade. high sierra was one of apple's least-popular OSes (check this forum, for example). mojave is sort-of the improved, repaired version.

just a thought...

 

[Juicy Box]

high sierra was one of apple's least-popular OSes (check this forum, for example). mojave is sort-of the improved, repaired version.

I know that HS had its issues, especially early on, which I waited a while to upgrade from 10.11 to 10.13, totally skipping 10.12. I think HS ended on a very stable version from my experience on 4 different Macs, all over 6 years old.

But, this forum is totally flooded with post with Mojave issues, especially with older hardware, HDD, and Fusion Drives. With HS not currently giving me issues, I will stick with that for a while, maybe upgrade to Mojave before 10.15 comes out, or just skipping it.

I play WoW, well I used to, and I am kind of getting back into it. I played from 2007 to 2016, and started playing again last fall. I was checking out the system requirements, and they have changed. I also was checking out if people was having issues on particular OS or HW.

WoW has been plagued with issues Mojave, so this has been one of the biggest reasons for me not to upgrade.

Besides, there really isn't any "must-have" features to have on Mojave to me.

So why upgrade?

performance?

It really depends on what hardware the user has, but everything I have read, Mojave may not be the best if you have a spinning drive or older HW.

For performance, my main Mac, a Late 2012 iMac is still running like a beast, so this isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.

security?

High Sierra is still getting security updates, so security isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.

better compatibility?

I currently don't have any compatibility issues with HS, so compatibility isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.

those seem like pretty good reasons to upgrade.

They are good reason to upgrade, but if you can achieve these things on the current OS, they are also good reasons not to upgrade too.

 

[fisherking]

I know that HS had its issues, especially early on, which I waited a while to upgrade from 10.11 to 10.13, totally skipping 10.12. I think HS ended on a very stable version from my experience on 4 different Macs, all over 6 years old.

But, this forum is totally flooded with post with Mojave issues, especially with older hardware, HDD, and Fusion Drives. With HS not currently giving me issues, I will stick with that for a while, maybe upgrade to Mojave before 10.15 comes out, or just skipping it.

I play WoW, well I used to, and I am kind of getting back into it. I played from 2007 to 2016, and started playing again last fall. I was checking out the system requirements, and they have changed. I also was checking out if people was having issues on particular OS or HW.

WoW has been plagued with issues Mojave, so this has been one of the biggest reasons for me not to upgrade.

Besides, there really isn't any "must-have" features to have on Mojave to me.

So why upgrade?

It really depends on what hardware the user has, but everything I have read, Mojave may not be the best if you have a spinning drive or older HW.

For performance, my main Mac, a Late 2012 iMac is still running like a beast, so this isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.



High Sierra is still getting security updates, so security isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.


I currently don't have any compatibility issues with HS, so compatibility isn't a reason for me to upgrade atm.


They are good reason to upgrade, but if you can achieve these things on the current OS, they are also good reasons not to upgrade too.

most of this could be said about any previous OS, next to the 'next' OS. soon, mojave will be the previous OS; then you're 2 systems back. and there will be enhancements, improvements, new features with 10.15. (& to be fair, new bugs).

then the cycle repeats.

 

[Pakaku]

So am I just being a big fat *****?

An operating system number is not even close to any indicator of that

I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade other than a newer OS is shinier, and it sounds like nothing important that you use is going to suddenly stop working on your old OS.

 

[Howard2k]

I had stability issues with High Sierra. When Mojave came out I went in with the first release. Normally I wait for .4. I did a clean install and have upgraded to .3. It’s been fantastic. Far more stable than High Sierra was.

I’ve been very happy with it. I had to adjust the power management through Terminal to get sleep working properly, but I think I’ve read comments from other people that this is resolved in .4 anyway.

 

[BigBoy2018]

An operating system number is not even close to any indicator of that

I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade other than a newer OS is shinier, and it sounds like nothing important that you use is going to suddenly stop working on your old OS.

The thing is, this is for some reason, the longest I’ve ever gone without updating my main drive to the ‘current’ os. That’s why I created the thread, it was more me just thinking out loud and wondering why this time, more than others, I’m reluctant.
I’ve read all sorts of the threads on Mojave and for the most part the comments and feedback is no different than it’s been about any MAcOS release.

So I know it’s a stupid question to ask. At best all I can say is that maybe my reluctance is from the fact that I’ve lost faith a little bit from Apple’s seemingly lack of focus on the Mac in recent years, whereas in the past I always had confidence that Apple was committed to releasing a rock solid os, or is nothing else would track down bugs like a blood thirsty dog. I just don’t ‘feel’ that way anymore, so I guess that’s just my little specific perception problem that I have to work though with my once favorite company.

 

[timidpimpin]

why are you asking the forum? it's a decision you should make yourself. here, you'll just get endless opinions, and you'll still have to make up your own mind.

anyway, my advice: go for it. or not...

Possibly the most logical and honest post ever made on the internet!

 

[BigBoy2018]

why are you asking the forum? it's a decision you should make yourself. here, you'll just get endless opinions, and you'll still have to make up your own mind.

anyway, my advice: go for it. or not...

I guess I was hoping on the off chance that someone here would throw up a nuggest of info about Mojave that I hadnt heard before that would sway me one way or another.

But yea, I realize its pretty much a stupid question.

 

[fisherking]

I guess I was hoping on the off chance that someone here would throw up a nuggest of info about Mojave that I hadnt heard before that would sway me one way or another.

But yea, I realize its pretty much a stupid question.

not a stupid question, just that... forums are a free-for-all; you can get some useful information (and often, here, great help), but, everyone has an opinion.... that's a lot of opinions!

 

[rmpbklyn]

Hey Comrads. I’m still on high Sierra for my primary drive, I’ve got Mojave on my secondary ‘test’ drive. I do a lot of video editing with Premiere 2017 and also use After Effects 2017 as well (I find both have much better performance than the subsequent versions).
I also play a few old games (Defense Grid, which I know doesn’t work right in Mojave).
At the same time I feel like it’s time to make the jump on my primary drive, but even now, with it at the .4 iteration, I still can’t seem to pull the trigger.

So am I just being a big fat *****?

I won't upgrade. Lion to ElCaptian was a disaster for me , address book got corrupted, hangs every time , many apps stoped working.
I did upgrade to Sierra and it fixed the address book somewhat, but still get tons of opendirectory messages.
No I won't upgrade any further many people reported issues with High Sierra.

 

[rpmurray]

Considering apple's lack of QC in past versions of the OS it's prudent to wait until all of apple's unpaid beta testers (those who have upgraded) have helped them to shake out some of the bugs before they bring out the next major bug ridden version. Sure, there will still be a lot of bugs left that apple decides not to fix by the time 10.15 comes around but at least some of the bigger ones may have been fixed. That's when you can "upgrade" (oxymoron) to Mojave.

 

[Fravin]

Mine is an 4k 21,5 2017 iMac, the one with Pro560 and a Fusion drive.

After 2 months with Mojave, I have decided to Downgrade to HS two weeks ago. For my machine HS it's a lot faster. Absolutely no UI lags. No iTunes lags. No Mission Control lags.

I use Capture One, Affinity Photo and Pixelmator Pro. And all those are struggling with Mojave. Don't know why, but the usability was terrible. Lags while brushing masks. I have argued with Apple Staff about it. After two attempts of clean installs and a a Memory upgrade, this iMac was very laggy.

With HS everything is sooooo smooth...

I wish back to unboxing and just wipe the drive and throw HS in it.

 

[BigBoy2018]

Mine is an 4k 21,5 2017 iMac, the one with Pro560 and a Fusion drive.

After 2 months with Mojave, I have decided to Downgrade to HS two weeks ago. For my machine HS it's a lot faster. Absolutely no UI lags. No iTunes lags. No Mission Control lags.

I use Capture One, Affinity Photo and Pixelmator Pro. And all those are struggling with Mojave. Don't know why, but the usability was terrible. Lags while brushing masks. I have argued with Apple Staff about it. After two attempts of clean installs and a a Memory upgrade, this iMac was very laggy.

With HS everything is sooooo smooth...

I wish back to unboxing and just wipe the drive and throw HS in it.

I get it. Just its so weird how several people say Mojave is smooth as silk, and others, like you, have a completely different take. You have modern hardware (except maybe for the fusion drive) so I’d love to hear one day from an apple engineer why these kinds of disparate variants occur.

 

[MisterSavage]

Very recently I upgraded to Mojave from High Sierra and it went fine. Then I checked for software updates and when it tried to apply 14.4 it was a disaster. I couldn't boot anymore. Ended up having to take it to the Genius Bar and they ended up wiping my drive. Thank goodness I'm good about making backups. Now that I'm Mojave 14.4 everything has been stable.

 

[fisherking]

that's the point; we all have different hardware. use different apps. and, for logical or random reasons, we have different experiences. but this happens with every version of the OS. some people are happy, some are not.

so, since there's no one absolute rule for everyone, you dive in... or you don't. here, no one can tell you exactly how things will go. clone your mac (for example, with carbon copy cloner), and install a new OS. (or not lol)....