With Oct. 14 only a day away, does anyone, or has anyone heard if there will be an HDMI output on the new macbook pros? I'm hearing rumors of built in blu-ray drives... If so, an HDMI output would make sense, plus it simplifies the hook up to any new HDTV... It really is legit "Plug and Play" when you're using HDMI...
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HDMI on new macbook pros?
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Guess you can get an official answer to that in like 2 days, but so far the cases being leaked out don't seem to feature any HDMI-out ports. I'd find that kinda dumb since if you got HD capability and blu-ray in there you might as well compliment it at all with HDMI.
Really, If they continue to use DVI it's really a step in the wrong direction... DVI is out... HDMI is in... C'mon Jobs, what the hell are you thinking!
You meant DisplayPort, right?
Not to mention all the DVI to HDMI fun ATI is having.
From what I've read there is no HDMI port. I think people are discovering a min-dvi connector, same one found on the current macbooks. That information is based on the leaked cases. I also don't think we'll be seeing a blu-ray drive either.
If we do see a blu-ray drive it is going to be VERY expensive if Sony's prices are any indication of what to expect. The large Sony laptops have a very reasonable upgrade charge of $150 for read only drives. The read/write drives are more expensive at $250.
Now when we look at Sony's smaller laptops, like the TT and the Z, now we see a charge of $500 dollars for the read/write blu-ray drive . There is no option for a read only drive on these smaller laptops though.
Apple's notebooks are very thin and they are slot-loading. If a blu-ray drive that can fit there premiers this tuesday we are probably looking at around a $500 dollar upgrade charge.
I'm hoping for an ips led screen on the new macbook pro. If Apple throws this in, then I'm in with Apple. If not they lost me this round to Sony's AW. It has a 3rgb led screen that can reproduce 137% of the adobe rgb gamut and a screen with 180 degree viewing angles (still trying to find out if its pva or ips although its most likely ips, and certainly not a 6-bit TN panel). That along with a 1080p screen and a blu-ray drive with an hdmi input. The nvidia 9600gt in it most likely means I can turn it into a hackintosh too.
I know Apple wants to be sleek and sexy, but they have to offer specs similar to pc manufactures and right now Fall 2008 is turning into the year of Blu-Ray in notebooks.
If we do see a blu-ray drive it is going to be VERY expensive if Sony's prices are any indication of what to expect. The large Sony laptops have a very reasonable upgrade charge of $150 for read only drives. The read/write drives are more expensive at $250.
Now when we look at Sony's smaller laptops, like the TT and the Z, now we see a charge of $500 dollars for the read/write blu-ray drive
. There is no option for a read only drive on these smaller laptops though.Apple's notebooks are very thin and they are slot-loading. If a blu-ray drive that can fit there premiers this tuesday we are probably looking at around a $500 dollar upgrade charge.
I'm hoping for an ips led screen on the new macbook pro. If Apple throws this in, then I'm in with Apple. If not they lost me this round to Sony's AW. It has a 3rgb led screen that can reproduce 137% of the adobe rgb gamut and a screen with 180 degree viewing angles (still trying to find out if its pva or ips although its most likely ips, and certainly not a 6-bit TN panel). That along with a 1080p screen and a blu-ray drive with an hdmi input. The nvidia 9600gt in it most likely means I can turn it into a hackintosh too.
I know Apple wants to be sleek and sexy, but they have to offer specs similar to pc manufactures and right now Fall 2008 is turning into the year of Blu-Ray in notebooks.
HDMI doesn't support dual-link, thus no 30in Cinema display capability.
(I don't want to hear about the Type B connector. Go show me a Type B HDMI to Dual-link DVI cable, and we'll discuss it further. Until then, go away)
(I don't want to hear about the Type B connector. Go show me a Type B HDMI to Dual-link DVI cable, and we'll discuss it further. Until then, go away)
Perhaps, but nobody knows. It would be nice to see HDMI with an included HDMI-DVI adapter included, but it will more likely be something like mini-DVI.
As far as advantages of HDMI, I could plug this MBP up to my TV so much easier with a true HDMI output because then I could get SOUND. That's the biggest problem with hooking a MBP up to an HDTV right now (Mine is a cheapo brand so using DVI + sound is kinda icky).
As far as the yammering about the price of Blu-ray drives, well, stop yammerin'! If it's a BTO option, duh, it'll cost an extra $200 or so. Better than paying an extra $200 for 2GB of memory, isn't it? That's also cheaper than all the BD players I have seen, so it sounds like a good upgrade to me.
As far as advantages of HDMI, I could plug this MBP up to my TV so much easier with a true HDMI output because then I could get SOUND. That's the biggest problem with hooking a MBP up to an HDTV right now (Mine is a cheapo brand so using DVI + sound is kinda icky).
As far as the yammering about the price of Blu-ray drives, well, stop yammerin'! If it's a BTO option, duh, it'll cost an extra $200 or so. Better than paying an extra $200 for 2GB of memory, isn't it? That's also cheaper than all the BD players I have seen, so it sounds like a good upgrade to me.
No way we'll see a $200 blu-ray option. Think more $500 and up. The problem with the macbook pro is the thin slot loading design means you have to have a smaller drive which will be much more expensive. As I said, look at the Sony laptops as an example. They have small and large notebooks with blu-ray drives and the price difference is huge and these aren't even slot loading.
I highly doubt we'll ever see Blu-ray on an Apple machine as long as Steve Jobs continues to stand his ground on DRM.
I've got a 32" Sharp that I got for $450... So not sure how cheapo yours is but I hook up my MBP to it with two cords (well, technically 3):
- 25' DVI to HDMI Cable
- 25' Audio Cable + 6 inch Audio to RCA Cable (Originally intended to just have one cable for that but couldn't find one for a reasonable price)
What ground? I don't see how you can use drm as an excuse for not putting in blu-ray support when itunes is full of drm.
With your high expectations I guess you are going to have to go for the Sony option. Too bad it runs such a crappy operating system.
Well I am hoping to Hackintosh it, but most of what I'll be doing is Web Browsing, Microsoft Office, PC games, iTunes, and Blu-ray movies. Unfortunately, as nice as OSX is, microsoft office, games, and movie watching are all better on the pc side.
That is assuming that Blu-ray doesn't go the way of laser disc or other formats that died out.
DVDs can house a good amount of data for the moment and if a program takes multiple DVDs that still isn't a problem. DVDs also have the added benefit of being dirt cheap and being almost universal between every computer.
The floppy disk met its death because of the small size. It'll be quite awhile before ~8GB from a dual layer DVD is too small for the average user.
There is also a chance of portable hard drives (think USB powered 120GB fits in your hand) replacing optical media if the price drops low enough.
All that said if there is a BTO Blu-ray option of course I'm buying it, but I don't need it and I don't think it is needed.
Well you will miss on having best of both worlds: ie OSX as core and XP virtualized with office etc on the pc side. Combine that with OSX Spaces and you get sheer bliss.
Hate to burst your bubble, but HDMI does support up to 2560x1600 (or 1600P) and will work find on your 30" display.
Why would they put a HDMI port on it?
I want FW800 on the macbooks.
Blu-Ray drives would be nice, but only if they are under $250 add on.
I want FW800 on the macbooks.
Blu-Ray drives would be nice, but only if they are under $250 add on.
Apparently you haven't been following the case leak threads? I think the MBPs were lucky to get FW800 this time around, and 400 is certainly out of the question.
Actually, DRM has everything to do with this, at least in an indirect way. iTunes is DRM because it has to be. That was the deal that was negotiated with the Big Four when the iTunes Music Store launched. And Apple has gotten a lot of mileage out of that deal by negotiating very reasonable fair usage rights on downloaded songs. But that doesn't mean Steve Jobs isn't anti-DRM. This article pretty well sums up his stance on the situation.
Blu-ray support for Apple is a far more complicated beast and it still has a lot to do with DRM. Apple has sat on the Blu-ray steering committee since its inception yet they've done nothing about it and it's too little, too late. HDCP is a form of DRM, yet Apple hasn't implemented it in anything, save for the HDMI output equipped on the Apple TV. Here's what would happen if Apple offered Blu-ray on the new MBPs tomorrow:
1. You'd only be able to use it for BD data and theoretically, disc authoring.
2. Consumers would be very upset that they can't watch commercial BD movies on their new laptops while Sony has been able to do so for almost 2 years. The graphics chipsets might be HDCP compliant, but Mac OS and every Apple display currently manufactured isn't.
It would be a total disaster for Apple if they released a Blu-ray equipped product tomorrow. If anything, I wouldn't expect to see official HDCP compliance from Apple until Snow Leopard. But I'm not holding my breath on that one...
Apple dug their own grave on this one....or did they? Blu-ray simply won't have the same commercial life DVD has enjoyed. Why? The use of optical media for film distribution is becoming obsolete in favor of DRM-protected streaming content. Besides, paying $30-35 for a typical BD title is obscene. And I don't expect to see that change, either. BD will turn into one of those novelties like Laserdisc was.