Hell Warming Up?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by MacRumors, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    Apple's iTunes for Windows launch proudly displayed the phrase "Hell Froze Over" on their corporate site.

    Hell freezing over humorously referred to the fact that Apple had finally developed a major consumer application (iTunes) for the Windows platform.

    In recent weeks, Apple's site has seen a few changes due to the release of iBooks and Mac OS X Panther, but their 'Introducing iTunes for Window' splash page now removes the amusing 'Hell 'reference.

    We received a report that the reason for this is due to the objection of some higher level individuals who were involved in the Richmond, VA school system iBook purchase (23,000). Due to this (high profile) objection, Apple reportedly changed their page to remove the reference.
  2. lduncan macrumors member

    Jun 17, 2003
    ChCh New Zealand
  3. dricci macrumors 6502a

    Dec 15, 2001
    That's lame. :rolleyes: Why are people so scared of four letter words?
  4. restiffbard macrumors member

    May 6, 2003

    I'm officially ashamed of my Commonwealth now.
  5. manitoubalck macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2003
    Adelaide, Australia
    Didn't the Eagles use that very phrase for a very similar reason?

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  6. johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030


    Sep 18, 2003
    London, UK
    Yep - 14 years prior to its release they said hell would freeze over before they would get back together. They did, hence the album name. Didn't hear any objections about that one. Great album too.
  7. manitoubalck macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2003
    Adelaide, Australia
    I must agree, one of the best live albums released.
  8. joanb96 macrumors newbie

    Oct 27, 2003
    Reference to Windows


    So that reference to an Eagles album is BRILLIANT, because it's like Apple had said before "We'll be doing windows software when hell freezes over", like the Eagles said of a band reunion.
    A great reference because we're talking about music here, so...
    I loved it, what a pity it doesn't show anymore!

  9. Cochrane macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2003
    There might also be other reasons for this. For example, as I already pointed out in another post Apple said they would bring 2-Button mice as soon as either Steve Jobs leaves the company or hell freezes over. Well, as they apparently don't want those mice they had to prevent hell from freezing over.
  10. punter macrumors 6502

    Feb 22, 2003
    I thought the "hell freezing over" apple page was the best and funniest I'd ever seen. I should have known that anything I found that amusing must be offensive to someone.

    And now that hell has frozen over hopefully we CAN have a two button mouse :D
  11. Raiden macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2002
    I happen to be one of the people in the richmond VA Ibook program (senior at godwin high school), and on the behalf of all the kids here who think beurocratic nonsence like this, I would like to thorowly appoligize for the removal of the hell freezes over joke.

    BTW, im posting this on my ibook. :)
  12. MorganX macrumors 6502a


    Jan 20, 2003
    As liberal as I am, I don't have a problem with it.

    I don't have a problem with Apple using the reference, or a large customer asking it be removed. I actually respect Apple for removing it.
  13. the_mole1314 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 16, 2003
    Akron, OH
    Ditto, same here
  14. Sol macrumors 68000


    Jan 14, 2003
    Now this is odd

    Let me get this straight: the objection to Apple posting that hell froze came not from a religious body but from an educational one?! Richmond educators should put away their bibles and do what the are supposed to do: give their students a modern education.
  15. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    That is a bit pathetic, but not all that surprising.....no matter what, you can't please everyone and some are just more annoying and narrow minded than others.

  16. rt_brained macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2002
    Who the hell is in charge over there in the Richmond, VA school system?

    I wanna tell them where they can go.
  17. Exponent macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2002
    Silicon Valley
    I think it's not so much of a religious matter as the idea that "Hell" is considered a kissing-cousin to a cuss word in some more genteel quarters. It certainly is an "adult" word, in many contexts. (In other words, you'd look askance at a, say, 5 year old uttering "Hell!")

    That being said, it's being used to advertise a music store with all kinds of mature content in it. Actually, I'm surprised that Apple hasn't been asked/forced to come out with a screen that blocks sales of "Explicit" songs.

    And for anyone thinking this is just a conservative/religious thing, just remember that it was Tipper Gore (husband of a certain Apple Board member) who pushed _that_ whole concept.
  18. 1macker1 macrumors 65816


    Oct 9, 2003
    A Higher Level
    I think the educators are right. And the phrase didnt make any sense anyway. Quicktime is already on windows. Apple knows that ignorant people love unimaginative phrases.
  19. B.B. macrumors newbie

    Oct 27, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    Who's to blame here?

    Most people would probably call me a conservative Christian, but this situation seems ridiculous to me. But who's really to blame here?

    Apple? Nope -- they're looking out for potential future sales and they don't want to risk those just for a (very clever) web banner.

    (Alleged) Conservative Christians? Nope -- they are as entitled to their beliefs as anyone else, and are free to express them in the marketplace.

    The ACLU? Perhaps, but probably not -- maybe this purely cultural reference to hell will be interpreted by a secular zealot as an attempt to impose religious values in our schools. ;)

    The program administrators? Not really -- they probably aren't scared of single four letter word, instead they're frightened of...

    Lawyers? -- That's it! Let's blame the attorneys who would take some group's irrational objection and turn it into a (frivolous) (very pofitable) lawsuit against the school district.

    I'm a Recovering Attorney myself, and a former school district employee. I can see the fingerprints of our overly litigious culture all over this silly move.
  20. SiliconAddict macrumors 603


    Jun 19, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    PC Moron...NO the OTHER PC!!!!

    $(@*&(@#@#(*&#!#!#!#~~~!!!! with a $*(@#*#@# while stuffing a banana up your *$!!@*#()$$*@#&!!!!**&# with a )$@$)(*)@(#*@# while strung upside down )*!*#$&&$*@) #(@#) #@ while #$*) in a very uncomfortable @#%)_!)$))(%(%#%# and the horse you rode in on.

    PS- People like this need to be taken out back and given a severe beating for gross stupidity. Oh. I'm sorry Apple deflowered your virgin eyes. Heaven help you. How will you ever survive now that you've read those three little letter. :eek: And I hate to say this but its not like some kid isn't going to hear a word like HELL 10,000 times in his/her life. :rolleyes:

    Thank god Jobs didn't have the slogan:
    holy ****!!! HELL froze over!! There would be a national campaign to kick Apple out of the country.
  21. jamesatzones macrumors regular

    Aug 29, 2003
    Hell Hell Hell, why is it that anything can be construed to offend someone. Boycott the Eagles, they used it first. I wonder how many teachers in VA listen to the Eagles. What about Time magazine, they have had hell on the cover if I recall correctly. This is unfortunately a time in our society where just about anything you say can offend someone.

    Let's change it to purgatory froze over, or heaven heated up...

    Just my view, I'm sure I will offend someone somehow just by saying this...
  22. Dros macrumors 6502

    Jun 25, 2003
  23. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus


    Oct 8, 2002
    The Bamboo Forest
    Re: PC Moron...NO the OTHER PC!!!!

    From Sam & Max Hit the Road

    Sam: Percent sign, Ampersand, Dollar Sign.
    Max: And colon, semi-colon too!
    Telekenic Guy: What are you two F@*#&*g doing?
    Sam: Swearing in longhand asterisk mouth
  24. Photorun macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2003
    What the hell! Stupid humorless bible thumpers. Hell is using peecees so clearly there's hell on earth. People who lack humor need to go to hell.

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