Alright, here's what happened. I copied my ATA drive to my firewire by draggin the ATA icon to the firewire drive. No problem. I did this to back up the data on the ATA. A few weeks later, I copied over a new backup, and threw the old ATA in the trash, and deleted it... would not delete. I found out the folder causing the problem, and used sudo to delete the rest, but these files WILL NOT DIE. All I have left is the ATA folder, with no (visible) files left inside. When I do 'sudo rm -rf, it will not delete. Here's from the Terminal: [John-Nowaks-Computer:/Users/springs] springs# sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Firewire/.Trashes/501/ATA rm: /Volumes/Firewire/.Trashes/501/ATA/????HFS+ Private Data/iNode1012410514: Operation not permitted rm: /Volumes/Firewire/.Trashes/501/ATA/????HFS+ Private Data/iNode1025116014: Operation not permitted rm: /Volumes/Firewire/.Trashes/501/ATA/????HFS+ Private Data/iNode102892365: Operation not permitted [etc.. etc..etc.. for about 30 files] Directory not empty [John-Nowaks-Computer:/Users/springs] springs# --- How can I delete this folder and the files in it? Something with chmod maybe? Any help would be appreciated. sudo rm -rf logged in as root doesn't seem to work. It is okay if I delete those files, right?