Here's how I plan to survive lack of Touch ID, and failure of Face ID on iPhone X

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  1. Goldfrapp, Sep 12, 2017
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    Goldfrapp macrumors 601

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    How did I ever survive without Touch ID on my

    original iPhone
    iPhone 3G
    iPhone 3GS
    iPhone 4
    iPhone 4S
    and finally iPhone 5?

    Simple: I used a good ole passcode

    What's another year of passcode until iPhone 11 (likely called iPhone Pro) arrives next year with both Face ID and Touch ID (hopefully)
     
  2. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    It's a real first world problem, but I would find it REALLY annoying to have to go back to typing in a passcode every time I unlock my phone.

    And it's really silly to speculate what next year's phone will have at this point.
     
  3. iapplelove macrumors 601

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    I use my passcode so little once a week the phone makes me sign in with my passcode before I can even use touchID.

    For me, touchID never fails always works and is quicker than quick. The phone is unlocked even before it's out of my pocket sometimes( if I grab it right).

    I'm straight with a passcode. And don't want to feel like a sucker if I bought the X and in 12 months from now they incorporate TouchID along with faceID
     
  4. redheeler macrumors 604

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    Your post has probably done the best job so far in turning me off the iPhone X. Touch ID, in terms of convenience and security, was one of the best features ever to come to the iPhone. If Face ID is not suitable to be used in its place, I'm better off not upgrading from my current 6s+.
     
  5. Dented, Sep 12, 2017
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    Yeah, no, Touch ID or at least a system that is as convenient and reliable as Touch ID is a *must have* in any future smartphone I buy.

    Because Touch ID works so well, my passcode is now a 9 digit alphanumeric - there's no way I'd want to type that in every time, and going back to a 4 or 6 digit pin makes my phone less secure. That's a nope from me.
     
  6. Rayy42 macrumors 6502

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    I wish there was an option to still have TouchID or FaceID and not be forced to use exclusively FaceID. That's the deal breaker for me.
     
  7. laser310 macrumors member

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    am i the only one with both pass code and touch id turned off?

    my security strategy is to not lose my phone

    actually.., i have pretty much nothing on it that i really care about keeping private, and i don't use apple pay
     
  8. Supermallet macrumors 65816

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    The problem is that the 6 digit numeric passcodes aren’t very secure. You should have a 12+ character alphanumeric code with special characters, and that’s a real pain to type in every time. The X isn’t worth losing TouchID for me.
     
  9. mantan macrumors 68000

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    It's that kind of mindset that pretty much lets Apple get away with doing anything. Remove the headphone jack, take away Touch ID, force users to pay $100 to get a usable amount of memory for years, only put image stabilization on the plus, jack up the price on the 'evolutionary phone' while rolling out nominal changes as an 'upgrade...as long as certain users have a 'don't care, I'm gonna buy', Apple is going to give you less and less.

    This is like the iPad 1 and original Apple watch. The functionality is limited and it'll be an overpriced brick when they release the next version Touch ID.
     
  10. johannnn macrumors 65816

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    Apple is pushing face authentication and android manufactures will follow. Fingerprint authentication will slowly die. You guys remind me of people that want ethernet port on their laptop.

    Edit: I'm so freaking tired of not being able to authenticate due to sweaty fingers etc.
     
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    Shell out a grand for a phone and you’re still smiling sweetly when you suspect it’ll be less secure and more inconvenient to use (not that i’m necessarily saying it definitely will be) than the one you have now?

    Sometimes I wonder just how far Apple could push it before people said no in droves.
     
  13. Azzurro macrumors regular

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    They could have used the Apple logo at the back as a temporary solution while they couldn’t work the touchID and faceID screen technology.
     
  14. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    Or you could just use FaceID...
     
  15. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Awesome. Don't buy it. More stock for the rest of us.
     
  16. pixel_junkie macrumors 6502

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    Maybe, seriously doubt it though. Touch ID allows you to unlock your phone BEFORE you're ready to look at it. Face ID does not which means it is already worse. It's okay to have it as a secondary measure of security but it can't be your primary.

    Forcing you to use face ID to unlock your phone on the X is straight up criminal. There are so many times when I'm driving and use my phone for navigation - the last thing I would want to do is to have to bring my phone up to my face just right to unlock it just to get a glance at the navigation app. Because if it fails, guess what? Now you're distracted and looking at your phone, trying to get it unlocked. This is a recipe for disaster, especially if driving at night.

    This is almost like a psychology experiment. They can put a taser that zaps you every time you touch your phone, there still will be lines around the apple store on opening day.

    Sure, form and function in harmony but why would they? You see what's happening here ...
     
  17. ascender macrumors 68020

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    But you don't have to bring your phone up to your face to authenticate?

    And apparently you can swipe to unlock before/as you look at it so it happens in parallel.

    Anecdotal info from those using it so far suggests that once you're used to it, going back to TouchID seems like a step backward. We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  18. Ralfi macrumors 68030

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    When I use navigation, the phone remains unlocked. But I charge the phone whilst driving which perhaps prevents it from locking.

    I guess you're not charging?
     
  19. x-evil-x macrumors 601

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    might as well not use a passcode. I didn't use one till I had my first Touch ID phone with the 6+. I think my 5 didn't have it at least right.
    I mean... I didn't care about anybody looking into my phone and I never ever lose things so I didn't really want the hassle.
    Why not go without a passcode then? You have insurance if things get lost or stolen.
     
  20. MjWoNeR macrumors 6502

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    If Face ID becomes the success Apple wants it to be, then Touch ID will become obsolete and I don't see any company bringing back an old technology if there is a newer and better tech out.

    Apple will push Face ID to be the norm. If they don't do well the first year, they will work on improving something they invested a lot in. If it fails the second year too and they see it's not worth it financially to invest further, due to limitations or whatever, then they might consider bringing Touch ID back if they don't do something else entirely like a science fiction DNA scan.
     
  21. OneMike macrumors 603

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    I don't really care about using a password to unlock the phone. The thing is touch id is also used by some to login to a lot of apps. That is where it can get interesting.
     
  22. clunkmess macrumors 6502a

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    Disable Touch ID for passcode and set passcode frequency to one hour = problem solved!
     
  23. ascender macrumors 68020

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    Apple people have said this week though that they are already using existing apps which need TouchID authentication with FaceID. So when an app asks for TouchID authentication to let you in, the phone returns that authentication result via FaceID.
     
  24. throAU macrumors 603

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    There is. It’s called the iPhone 8

    Nothing exclusive to the X really matters and the internal hardware in terms of processor etc. is almost identical.
     
  25. OneMike macrumors 603

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    I know. I just meant that in the event FaceID turned out to be a failure or flakey. It'd be one thing to go back to entering a 4-6 digit password to unlock your phone. It'd be another to have to go back to entering passwords for other apps that are probably of a much longer length.
     

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