Hey, where's my healthcare?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Blue Velvet, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. Blue Velvet, Nov 16, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2010

    Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    They don't want it for you, but they want it for themselves:

    Yes, this Andy Harris. But when he turned up on Capitol Hill for his orientation:

    Keeping a count of how many Tea Party Republican congressmen and women decline their government plans? Guessing you can do it with just one finger.
  2. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Gotta love how out of touch and full of **** these guys are.

    As for his assertion that he never waited for healthcare before, he's full of it. Employer provided healthcare has never been immediate, at least for me. And he's a doctor no less. :rolleyes:
  3. Desertrat macrumors newbie

    Jul 4, 2003
    Terlingua, Texas
    Sorry about all your huffing and puffing, but he's merely pointing out the problem with almost every bureaucratic system we have--and health care is one of the worst. He's justifiably bitching about the paperwork time lag. No way in Hell should the process take a month, not in this age of computers.

    Ever notice that you can register on a monster website and get an almost-instantaneous recognition email? The federal bureaucracy does not have that same competence.

    Kinda like the joke about finding Bin Laden: Put a video rental center on it, forget the CIA. Private sector over public sector--it's always a winner.
  4. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    No- he's a ****ing hypocrite. If he really stands for what he believes in, he'll get his own health care and stop mooching off citizens, don't you think?

    Amazing how you'll rush to this guy's defense and twist his BS to meet your own ends. Actually, it's sickening.
  5. RCGMac macrumors regular

    Aug 21, 2007
    You are missing the irony in all of this. For someone who campaigned against government healthcare, it is a bit sad that the is bitching about having to wait 28 days for his healthcare to kick in. Poor baby, 28 days, what about the millions of Americans who are employed and don't have insurance? I love that he asked if he could buy into the plan early, sort of like that horrible "socialism" that is the public option. It would be funny how hypocritical this is, if it wasn't so infuriating.
  6. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a


    Oct 8, 2008
    Well that proves it. :p
  7. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    Are you seriously equating an automatically generated "recognition" email with full instigation of health insurance :confused:?
  8. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030


    May 18, 2004
    you must not have much experience with getting health care insurance as an employee in the private sector.

    A month wait is quite common, even fairly prompt, and 90 days isn't unusual in the private sector.
  9. Sydde, Nov 16, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 23, 2010

    Sydde macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2009
    I heard of but one member of congress who declined his government healthcare "until my constituents have the same kind of access." He was, of course, a Democrat, who lost his bid for re-election this year (Steve Kagen, WI). Hypocrisy rules!
  10. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    It sure does. Why have we seen Republicans do this? Gee, I wonder.
  11. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    Funny. In communist England thanks to evil government regulation you are covered by insurance as soon as you accept the quote. Whether technically to start with you are covered under your policy or the brokers policy depends. But you are covered straight away.
  12. MacVixen macrumors 6502

    Jan 26, 2009
    Santa Cruz, CA
    Very true. And the reason why there is a waiting period is because health care premiums are generally paid in advance. So they go the first 28 days with no health insurance even though they pay because because it kicks in the following month. And the reverse happens when one leaves employment. Covered for an additional month because the premium is paid in advance.
  13. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    According to the article I read, around 70% of private sector employees have to wait at least a month before their health coverage kicks in. 30-ish% have to wait 3 months or more.
  14. macfan881, Nov 16, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2010

    macfan881 macrumors 68020

    Feb 22, 2006
    wait so wont these make theme Socalists and part of the death panel system lol
  15. Apple OC macrumors 68040

    Apple OC

    Oct 14, 2010
    It will be built into your Taxes :cool:
  16. Heilage macrumors 68030


    May 1, 2009
    Hey, you filibustered your own healthcare into oblivion!

    Or something like that.
  17. hulugu macrumors 68000


    Aug 13, 2003
    quae tangit perit Trump
    Right. Those Blackwater guys sure did a bang-up job with security in Iraq for example.
  18. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    Those guys can probably get into Walter Reed, with little problem. :rolleyes:
  19. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    Yeah- Blackwater sure did kick ass, didn't they?:mad:
  20. mcrain macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002

    In wonder why the GOP was against UHC and reform in general...
  21. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    KBR did exceptional work too..

    Maseth's tragic death brings to 12 the number of soldiers who have died in Iraq due to accidental electrocution, according to Army and Marine e-mails obtained by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
  22. Tomorrow macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2008
    Always a day away
    People shouldn't confuse government-provided health insurance for everyone with employer-provided health insurance for an individual. It just so happens that this guy's employer is the government - but the government already does provide health insurance for its employees. To say that he's a hypocrite because he argued against government-provided insurance for everyone is a bit off-base.

    In any event, I don't think it's uncommon at all to have to wait a month for your employer-provided coverage to go into effect. I seem to recall my own kicking in at the end of my first calendar month. For that, I think he's whining about something that's absolutely common, and he should probably let it go.
  23. BigQid macrumors regular

    Feb 23, 2010
    Would it be better with United Health as your insurer? No. There are very few jobs where you get the job and can go to the doctor the next day, and technically he isn't on the job until next year. Its moments like this, looking at how hard it is to convince half of the people of the truth and how many lies run laps around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes, I see that this is the end of the empire.
  24. 63dot macrumors 603


    Jun 12, 2006
    Harris sounds like he's getting into top "politician" form. :)

    I see a turnaround in 2012 in the House. This whole anti-Obamacare rant won't get a politician far if the complainers have no answers themselves.

    Just like 1994s GOP takeover was going to set a stage for Dole (or any top Republican) to walk into the White House in 1996, but then failed miserably, the GOP have just set themselves up for failure two years from now. And if the GOP runs a greenhorn, far right winger like Palin or Jindal, they are sure to lose no matter how good or bad GOP House members perform.

    If Harris, and other far right conservatives (many through the Tea Party), come into Congress with no answers and no experience, they will be the ones blamed.

    Obama may have dropped in his ratings, but he is far more popular than Bush was through most of his career, and is far more popular than the House of Representatives which is set to be strongly GOP shortly. Let's see how a GOP House handles the fort, and when things are not "better", this group which is arguably the most powerful political entity in the US, will have to account for their actions.
  25. Sydde macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2009
    However, if you look at where Bush was around this point (late 2002, around the time that his staff were Plaming-hot), his approval ratings were unnaturally high (over 70%, IIRC) because he was still milking lower Manhattan for empathy. Sadly, bright as he is, Obama shows no sign of being any more politically competent than his predecessor.

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