Hillary Clinton: NeoCon For President

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This documentary exposes Hillary's real documented policies for intervention wars, right wing coups, promoting record breaking weapons sales of the same co's she claims should be held accountable for Sandy Hook and gun violence in the USA, the contributions made to the Clinton Foundation by same weapons manufacturers of the AR15, her war on minorities, and her war on women.

Hillary Clinton, the best neocon candidate ever!.

 
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NT1440

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You're using the term Neo-Republican, when the term is Neoconservative (Neocon), but you're absolutely right in that all she stands for on foreign policy is Neoconservativism.
 

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her supporters don't care, all that matters is that "D" next to her name.
No.

Her supporters car because she is running for President in a race where the Republican nominee is utterly morally, ethically, intellectually, and psychologically unqualified for the office.

Trump is serial bankrupt. A vulgarian, name-calling psychopath. A racist, a bigot, and a braggart. A narcissist who has conned everybody he has come into contact with his entire adult life.

Trump has spoken seriously about deporting eleven million people ("They have to go"). Stop, for a moment, and consider the sheer size of the police and military operation that would be required to do that. The number of courts; of arrest teams; of jail cells and detention centers; of buses and chartered airplanes required to forcibly eject eleven million human beings.

That is just one of the issues on which sensible, decent people of all political persuasions are horrified and revolted by the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

Thats what a vote "against Hillary" means.
 
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Robisan

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Keep thewappin' that chicken...

...adding, two minutes was all I could stand. Bitter Chris Hitchens is still dead and blowhard Chris Mathews' 2008 clip turned out to be dead wrong.
 

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No.

Her supporters car because she is running for President in a race where the Republican nominee is utterly morally, ethically, intellectually, and psychologically unqualified for the office.

Trump is serial bankrupt. A vulgarian, name-calling psychopath. A racist, a bigot, and a braggart. A narcissist who has conned everybody he has come into contact with his entire adult life.

Trump has spoken seriously about deporting eleven million people ("They have to go"). Stop, for a moment, and consider the sheer size of the police and military operation that would be required to do that. The number of courts; of arrest teams; of jail cells and detention centers; of buses and chartered airplanes required to forcibly eject eleven million human beings.

That is just one of the issues on which sensible, decent people of all political persuasions are horrified and revolted by the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

Thats what a vote "against Hillary" means.

I find it completely baffling that the great American public can't see through his populist, reactionary policies. Everything he says is to grab headlines and hence all the attention. In the UK you'd be forgiven for thinking all the other candidates bowed out months ago because he keeps coming out with bat **** crazy ideas and controversial statements (that he sometimes tries to back away from) that sell papers. Nothing is thought through or costed out for practicalities.

There's a teeny tiny part of me that hopes he wins just to show everyone what a fraud he is and to punish the stupid people who supported him.

He's like a richer, oranger orangier more orange Nigel Farage (UKIP).
 

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No.

Her supporters car because she is running for President in a race where the Republican nominee is utterly morally, ethically, intellectually, and psychologically unqualified for the office.

Trump is serial bankrupt. A vulgarian, name-calling psychopath. A racist, a bigot, and a braggart. A narcissist who has conned everybody he has come into contact with his entire adult life.

Trump has spoken seriously about deporting eleven million people ("They have to go"). Stop, for a moment, and consider the sheer size of the police and military operation that would be required to do that. The number of courts; of arrest teams; of jail cells and detention centers; of buses and chartered airplanes required to forcibly eject eleven million human beings.

That is just one of the issues on which sensible, decent people of all political persuasions are horrified and revolted by the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

Thats what a vote "against Hillary" means.
Thank you, @vrDrew. Thank you.
 

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Trump has spoken seriously about deporting eleven million people ("They have to go"). Stop, for a moment, and consider the sheer size of the police and military operation that would be required to do that. The number of courts; of arrest teams; of jail cells and detention centers; of buses and chartered airplanes required to forcibly eject eleven million human beings.

That is just one of the issues on which sensible, decent people of all political persuasions are horrified and revolted by the prospect of a Trump Presidency.
Deporting illegals needn't be done overnight. It could be done over a period of months or years, which would make it more manageable with more moderate increases in resources. New laws could also be passed to streamline the deportation processes if necessary. In addition, once a serious effort is made to apprehend and deport illegal aliens, there would probably be fewer new illegal entries and employers would be less likely to hire those who are already here.
 

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Deporting illegals needn't be done overnight. It could be done over a period of months or years, which would make it more manageable with more moderate increases in resources. New laws could also be passed to streamline the deportation processes if necessary. In addition, once a serious effort is made to apprehend and deport illegal aliens, there would probably be fewer new illegal entries and employers would be less likely to hire those who are already here.
11 million people. Do the math on the time required to do that.
Good luck.
 
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NT1440

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So if it's hard and takes a long time to enforce laws, it shouldn't be done?
No it shouldn't be done because its a ****ing stupid idea. But the logistics of getting it done would require a police and transportation system that would look shockingly similar to the transportation of the Jews in the 40's.

You can't (and shouldn't) round up 11million people. Doing so would require a militarized police state, and once you have created that there is nothing but the whims of those commanding it to prevent it from turning on other groups.


This entire premise (forcibly migrating 11 million people) is inhumane.
 
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This entire premise (forcibly migrating 11 million people) is inhumane.
So are you suggesting it is in humane to deport even a single illegal immigrant? How many deportations could be done before you would consider it inhumane?

Obama deported over 400,000 immigrants in 2014. If we tripled that number, we could get the job done in less than 10 years, and sooner if illegal immigrants began leaving on their own.
 
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War on women? Really? Wow...the anti-Hillary folks are getting really desperate.
KKKillary’s taken TENS OF MILLION$ in bribes from Middle Eastern regimes that torture and murder LGBT WOMEN, and $10-25 MILLION from Saud Arabia where women cannot legally drive and have to be chaperoned by male relatives if they go out in public. Yes KKKillary is part of the war on women, and minorities:


KKKillary’s War (feat. The Black Libyan Genocide)

Warning Graphic


Clinton Emails on Libya Expose The Lie of ‘Humanitarian Intervention’

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kovalik/clinton-emails-on-libya-e_b_9054182.html

Hillary Clinton, “Smart Power” and a Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The secretary of state was persuasive. But the ouster of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed state and a terrorist haven.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html


PS. Don’t forget, it was KKKillary’s husband who is the reason hundreds of thousands of brown and black men and women throughout America have been unjustly sentenced to draconian terms for crack cocaine and other drugs. Who supported that? KKKillary.
 

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So are you suggesting it is in humane to deport even a single illegal immigrant? How many deportations could be done before you would consider it inhumane?

Obama deported over 400,000 immigrants in 2014. If we tripled that number, we could get the job done in less than 10 years, and sooner if illegal immigrants began leaving on their own.
We could do it in a year, if we had the courage and the will to increase the rate to 30 times what the feckless Obama administration is doing. Six months, if 60 times the rate was doable.
 

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We could do it in a year, if we had the courage and the will to increase the rate to 30 times what the feckless Obama administration is doing. Six months, if 60 times the rate was doable.
Doable? Why don't you tell us how feckless Obama, who has deported more illegals than any of his predecessors, could deport more. Do you have any idea what's involved? Where do all the people to do it come from? Where do we find courtrooms to handle all the hearings? The judges?
 
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You guys have a tough choice to make. As Lindsey Graham said although he was referring to Trump and Cruz it applies equally to Trump and Clinton. Its a choice of being shot or poisoned. How did a country with 400 million people end up with these two.
 

jerwin

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Doable? Why don't you tell us how feckless Obama, who has deported more illegals than any of his predecessors, could deport more. Do you have any idea what's involved? Where do all the people to do it come from? Where do we find courtrooms to handle all the hearings? The judges?
Details, details. Are you afraid of challenging America to become GREAT again?