homosexual hiv+ man arrested knowingly infecting men in canada

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  1. dinaluvsApple macrumors regular

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    sickening someone would actually do this!

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/12/03/16416841.html

    QUEBEC CITY — An HIV-positive man will remain behind bars as police investigate the claims of ten men who say the accused had unprotected sex with them after seeking them out on the Internet.

    Steve Biron, 32, faces charges of aggravated assault and aggravated sexual assault against one alleged victim, but the Crown could lay more charges in a case that has Quebec City’s gay community on edge.
     
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    I'm sure it's a liberal conspiracy to spread the gay disease.
     
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    Should one have to disclose to their partner if the knowingly have HIV?
     
  5. dinaluvsApple thread starter macrumors regular

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    dont u think it should carry the charge of 1st degree murder?
     
  6. coochiekuta macrumors 6502

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    no and while its unfortunate, you have to protect YOURSELF. it was not rape. sure its easy for me to say that but still be mindful of who you sleep with.
     
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    And generally unless you live in a very undeveloped country you can get the drugs for free/cheap which - while annoying - keep you alive.
     
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    Yes ... it is the law here in Canada for both men and women

    some people have been sent to jail for not disclosing they are HIV positive
     
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    Yes, because to do otherwise is to harm another person.
     
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    I believe that there are parts in the US where failure to reveal you are HIV positive before a sexual act is considered illegal and a crime. Don't quote me because I may well be wrong.
     
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    Certainly not the first.

    This guy, one of 'ours', was found guilty of murder.
     
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    From Wikipedia:
    Serves the bastards right.
     
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    Wow. Simply unbelievable.

    Which States are these?

    Are they hoping that the gays will kill themselves off??
     
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    was that a joke? it was funny but its just not a problem in the gay community.
     
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    Hardly a joke, just a jab at the Religious Right states, that might not really care at all about HIV and AIDS.

    You must be familiar with the bastardisation of the AIDS acronym.
     
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    I would say the opposite. Yes, it would carry the charge of 1st degree murder, but only if:

    • it is medically proven that the victim did not have HIV prior to the encounter with the suspect, and (to play it safe) no previous partners he was with immediately prior to the suspect have or had HIV.
    • the victim dies of an HIV-related illness.

    Of course, timing is everything here. If he goes in on the sexual assault charge and is found guilty or innocent before the victim dies, he gets one set of punishment doled to him. When the victim does, he would be brought back to court for the murder charge, as his act is pre-meditated. In the US, the 5th Amendment would normally protect the suspect against this, but a) it wouldn't be the same offense twice (assault vs. murder), and b) this is Canada.

    BL.
     
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    Exactly. Sickening this guy would knowingly do this but also it's a risk that is taking while sleeping around. Wear protection, be mindful of who you knock uglies with; it's sex life 101.
     
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    Yes. It's not fair for one to knowingly spread a deadly disease to others in stealth.
     
  22. Queso macrumors G4

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    Anyone who has casual sex with someone they've only just met, regardless of sexuality, should use protection. It doesn't matter that this man knew he was HIV, even if he hadn't known the result would have been the same.
     
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    No-one is doubting that, and yes, the victim should have said "no protection? no shag." but that doesn't take away the fact that someone who is HIV+ is knowingly (and can be argued as pre-meditatively) infecting others. Clearly falls under (aggravated) sexual assault, but not rape. If the victim dies, that make a great argument for 1st degree murder.

    BL.
     
  24. Queso macrumors G4

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    I don't see why whether the person doing the infecting knows they are HIV+ or not actually matters to the victim. They will still end up HIV+ and shorten their life span as a result. If you engage in casual sex you have to be the one responsible for your own health. To put it bluntly no other ****er is going to care.

    As for the rest, well of course society demands punishment. Still doesn't change a damn thing for the victim though.
     

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