a reliable car that is reliable everywhere else.
Wow, I'm stunned!
How the hell did Peugeot keep out of the bottom two places??
I had a Honda Civic, not a single problem and it felt like it was solidly built. I could believe this more easily if it were a satisfaction survey, but reliability surprises me.
I wonder whether it had a specific common fault or just general problems?
The Si models( US at least) had an issue with 3rd gear popping out. Plus, it didn't help Honda wouldn't acknowledge the problem and insisted to owners they were an isolated incident. Honda after 2 years finally came up with a fix, but instead of a recall issues a Technical Service Bulletin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlTpRuDhMV8
Not the first time that a performance oriented car has had issues specific to areas of the car which will be the most abused. Think 16-18 year old kid, first car/stick, parents figure "hey, it's a Honda, even though it's sporty it'll still be a dead reliable car". Two months later, the clutch is slipping, or the trans is grinding, and above parents are taking said car to the dealership raising hell to the tune of "how dare you accuse MY kid of beating on this car???" I'm not saying Honda should get a free pass, but it's funny that problems like this always pop up more often on the sporty model of a given car.
Recalls are generally reserved for safety related issues such as leaking fuel lines or throttle cables that stick wide open. TSBs cover the rest. With such easy access to the internet, there's no reason anyone shouldn't be able to research common problems with their car so that they can be armed with information when they go to a dealer to have an issue addressed. The service manager's gonna have a hard time with the "isolated incident" BS if you walk in with a stack of print-outs from people on forums with the same problem.
My '06 Civic has 63k on it, and aside from oil changes and a $47 set of front brake pads, it hasn't cost me a dime. It's still as tight and quiet inside as it was the day I got it. By far the most reliable car I've ever owned. Not to mention the resale value of a Civic blows away pretty much anything else on the road.
PS: take a look at the "Related Videos" in the youtube link. Pretty much all racing clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWrfiEuJsV4&feature=related
I say 3rd gear popping out can be a safety issue. Your accelerating and all of a sudden since the car pops out of gear you lose the power and suddenly slow down and boom get rear ended.
Seriously, stop blindly defending Honda because YOURS was reliable. One out of thousands of Civics is enough for you to say Civics are reliable and anyone that has a problem is spewing out crap?
That's quite a thin arguement. Might as well recall every car ever made then and install a sensor that'll trigger the brake lights as soon as you lift the throttle by your logic.
Exactly how am I "blindly defending Honda"? I specifically said I didn't think Honda should get a free pass, I just find it ironic that issues related to powertrains seem more likely to happen in the sportier model cars, I wasn't referring to Honda, but all cars in general. My experience with my car may be just one example, but the statistics don't lie. Sure, all cars have problems at some point but I'm alot more confident that the frequency of those problems will be alot wider than if I was driving, say, a Cobalt or Focus.
Just goes to show you that Brits can't even build a reliable car that is reliable everywhere else.