Hope and Change?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by JRoDDz, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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    Gas prices are up 67% since President Obama took office. Food prices are through the roof too. The economy is sinking faster than the Titanic. We sure got change all right. Short changed.
     
  2. 7on macrumors 601

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    Things don't happen overnight, a lot of what's happening now is due to the previous administration.

    Though if Obama is guilty of anything it's doing nothing.
     
  3. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    With a dry, cool wit like that, you could work for Sarah Palin.
     
  4. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    There's really not too much a president can do about gas prices. I've heard arguments that we should stop giving the companies tax breaks, but then again, that wouldn't LOWER prices, would it?

    Food prices up because gas prices are up, obviously. Maybe if we weren't so dependent on oil, something we should have worked towards decades ago, we wouldn't be in this mess. High speed rail sounds better and better with each day that goes by IMO.
     
  5. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Feels good to recite those vapid witticisms doesn't it?
     
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    Look across the globe (especially at Europe) Socialism doesn't make things better. It makes everything more expensive and destroys economies. Europe is getting a fresh "right wing, conservative" wind now to clean up the mess.
     
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    A majority of the items you mention are directly tied to the economy. There is nothing Obama can do to improve the economy for the long term. He has zero control over the economy.
     
  9. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    What does socialism have to do with anything.

    Also, evidence that socialist European economies are worse off than ours? Evidence of "conservative" wind?
     
  10. Xeperu macrumors 6502

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    1. Obama has been hailed as the socialist liberator after Bush.
    2. Get involved, watch the news.
     
  11. JRoDDz thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Obama could tap into the Strategic Oil Reserves. He could allow oil companies to drill for oil on U.S. soil. But sadly, he's doing none of the above.
     
  12. quagmire macrumors 603

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    He has been hailed as the socialist liberator by conservatives.
     
  13. JRoDDz thread starter macrumors 68000

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    You know... I could see Russia from here.
     
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    So we can refill the reserves later at a higher cost? Wonderful idea; you should be an analyst for FOX News.
     
  15. 7on macrumors 601

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    Meh, oil is overrated.

    Let gas get to $10 a gallon. Maybe then we'll see better transit systems get put into place or maybe people will start buying into electric vehicles? That's the free market.
     
  16. yg17 macrumors G5

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    If the strategic reserves were for when gas prices were high, we would have no strategic reserve left? Remember years back when gas went up to $2? Yeah, everyone bitched about those high gas prices. So if we opened the reserves back then and depleted them, now what would we do?

    The reserve is for when there's a gas shortage. There is not a gas shortage now.
     
  17. JRoDDz thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Here's a thought. Stop buying oil from countries that hate you and drill here in the good ole' USA.
     
  18. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Hmm. The farting scene from "Blazing Saddles" suddenly comes to mind.

    That's not the kind of wind you want to be near.
     
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    There isn't enough recoverable oil in the US to make it worthwhile.

    Both of the measures you mention only have limited short term potential and do nothing to solve the longterm problems.
     
  20. quagmire macrumors 603

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    Or use the money that would be used to drill, explore, etc for R&D to get off oil.

    For as long as gas is cheap, there will not be a strong movement for alternative fuels. If we only delay the inevitable, the situation will get worse as the world runs out of oil. If we start the move off oil now while there is still a decent supply of oil, it will be easier for everyone.
     
  21. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Sounds like someone who only started paying attention to world/current/political affairs once someone they didn't like came to office. How else would someone explain the complete lack of historical record and context?
    :rolleyes:
     
  22. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    Right wing in the sense of centre right. Not the crazy extreme right in America. Remember even the democrats are more right wing than most European centre right parties.

    P.S The vast majority of European nations are not socialist.
     
  23. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Ah, the good old "[citation needed] but then [citation needed]. you're just not paying attention to [citation needed]."

    Please be aware of PRSI rules. If you can't cite sources to back up your arguments, you're not abiding by those rules.

    http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Rules_for_Appropriate_Debate

    We don't have the capacity. Congratulations, you just crippled the US economy.
     
  24. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    gas is still less than what I was paying at Bushes High.

    At the max for under Bush I was paying 5 bucks a gallon for what I was buying. Right now I am just sitting at around 4 bucks a gallon.

    As for hope and change well people here know my opinion on politicitions
     
  25. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    Stop sullying this thread with facts.
     

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