HOUSE GOP ROLLS BACK INDEPENDENT ETHICS OFFICE

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  1. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    Drain the swamp my ass. The first thing the new GOP house does is meet in private, after hours, to get rid of the ethics office. Off to a great start.



    "Defying the wishes of their top leaders, House Republicans voted behind closed doors Monday night to rein the independent ethics office created eight years ago in the wake of a series of embarrassing congressional scandals."





    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pendent-ethics-office/?utm_term=.0de08fc35f90
     
  2. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    So surprising...not.

    Go ahead conservatives on this site, try to explain and justify this. I can't wait for the spin. Or will we get the sound of crickets on this one?
     
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    Pray/say/tell what the office did during those 8 years.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    They'll build a newer, stronger, more ethical apparatus.

    Right after they build that wall.
     
  6. MacNut macrumors Core

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    The ethics office was established as an independent, non-partisan entity by Congress under then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in 2008.

    Pelosi led the push to create OCE as part of a congressional ethics reform package in response to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal and other violations by former Reps. Duke Cunningham (R-Calif.), Tom DeLay (R-Texas), Mark Foley (R-Fla.) and others.

    The rallying cry for Pelosi’s ethics reform measures was, in fact, to “drain the swamp.” The same phrase has been adopted more recently by President-elect Donald Trump, who made a campaign push for ethics reforms, such as expanding a lobbying ban on members of his administration.

    But House Republicans are starting the new Congress by limiting oversight of themselves.

    Democrats and ethics watchdog groups blasted the GOP’s move Monday night, which came on a federal holiday and only one day before the full rules package hits the House floor.

    “Republicans claim they want to ‘drain the swamp,’ but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions," Pelosi said in a statement.

    "Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress," the House Democratic leader said.

    The Democratic National Committee (DNC) echoed that sentiment, accusing House Republicans of "signaling a return to the days of Jack Abramoff and Tom DeLay."

    "It should be clear by now that Donald Trump – already the most corrupt and conflicted President-elect in history – is betraying his promise to drain the swamp. Now Republicans in the House are following his example, attempting to cripple the independent entity that deals with ethics in Congress," DNC spokesman Eric Walker said in a statement.

    Goodlatte defended the amendment in a statement, arguing it "builds upon and strengthens the existing Office of Congressional Ethics by maintaining its primary area of focus of accepting and reviewing complaints from the public and referring them, if appropriate, to the Committee on Ethics."
     
  7. Mac'nCheese thread starter macrumors 68030

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    What difference does it make? The FIRST thing the new house does is to meet after hours and vote to get rid of an independent ethics office. That's whats important to them. That doesn't bother you?

    Oh but it did stuff like:

    "The OCE opened dozens of reviews, based on publicly available information, submissions from the public, press accounts and other sources of information. It was created by Speaker Pelosi as part of her effort to "drain the swamp" of corruption in official Washington that had garnered so much attention in the preceding congressional sessions. This included the multiple ethical and criminal violations stemming from, among others, disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and former representatives Duke Cunningham, Tom DeLay, Bob Ney, Mark Foley and William J. Jefferson.[15]"
     
  8. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Independent/non-partisan led by who? To investigate who?

    You guys are funny are funny.
     
  9. MacNut macrumors Core

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    INDEPENDENT is a key word here.
     
  10. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    How much did it cost to keep it open?

    What have they done for the tax payer lately?

    Sorry but you need to progressively prove your worth and purpose to justify keeping your doors open.

    Better question, who the hell is jail because of their investigations in the last 12 months? If no one, who the hell cares. Close the damn doors and save the money.
     
  11. Populism macrumors regular

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    My, my.

    I guess they found a seemingly Liberal-friendly thread.

    Welcome back, Kotter(s)!

    Where you guys been been during the terrorist stuffs and unsubstantiated pooping on Russia?

    Cat had your tongue?
     
  12. MacNut macrumors Core

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    What are you going on about? Did we interrupt your singing of kumbaya?
     
  13. Populism macrumors regular

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    Is that a song?
     
  14. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Who seemingly only went after republicans....
     
  15. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Oh, now you see why they wanted it gone. God forbid we see their dirty deeds.
     
  16. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Like Weiners deeds? Hillarys?
     
  17. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Was Weiner a member of Congress. Phrasing, Boom.
     
  18. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    I care about convictions. Have any? Who is in prison due to actions taken by this group in the last 12 months?
     
  19. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Well seeing as the GOP is about to take control again in a few days weird that they shut it down.
     
  20. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Hillary was. BOOM.
     
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    Hard to say since she was not investigated like republicans were. So much for "independent " :D
     
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    2009– (Obama (D) presidency)[edit]
    Executive branch[edit]
    Legislative branch[edit]
    • Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)[3]
    • Dennis Hastert (R-IL) Speaker of the United States House of Representatives pleaded guilty in court for illegally structuring bank transactions related to payment of $3.5 million to quash allegations of sexual misconduct with a student when he was a high school teacher and coach decades ago.[4] (2016)
    • Michael Grimm (R-NY) pleaded guilty of felony tax evasion. This was the fourth count in a 20-count indictment brought against him for improper use of campaign funds. The guilty plea had a maximum sentence of three years; he was sentenced to three months in prison. (2015)[5]
    • Trey Radel (R-FL) was convicted of possession of cocaine in November 2013. As a first-time offender, he was sentenced to one year probation and fined $250. Radel announced he would take a leave of absence, but did not resign. Later, under pressure from a number of Republican leaders, he announced through a spokesperson that he would resign. (2013)[6][7][8]
    • Rick Renzi (R-AZ) was found guilty on 17 of 32 counts against him June 12, 2013, including wire fraud, conspiracy, extortion, racketeering, money laundering and making false statements to insurance regulators. (2013)[5]
    • Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two and one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)[9]
    • Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)[10][11]
    Judicial branch[edit]
    • Mark E. Fuller (R) U.S. District Judge was found guilty of domestic violence and sentenced to 24 weeks of family and domestic training and forced to resign his position.(2015)[12][13][14]
    2001–2009 (George W. Bush (R) presidency)[edit]
    Executive branch[edit]
    • Scott Bloch (R) United States Special Counsel. pleaded guilty to criminal contempt of Congress for "willfully and unlawfully withholding pertinent information from a House Committee investigating his decision to have several government computers wiped ...."[15][16] On June 24, 2013, U. S. District Judge Robert L. Wilkins sentenced Bloch to one day in jail and two years' probation, and also ordered him to pay a $5000 fine and perform 200 hours of community service.(2010) [17]
    • David Safavian (R) Administrator for the Office of Management and Budget[18] where he set purchasing policy for the entire government.[19][20] He was found guilty of blocking justice and lying,[21] and sentenced to 18 months. (2008)[22][23]
    • Lewis Libby (R) Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney (R). 'Scooter' was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Plame Affair on March 6, 2007 and was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000. His sentence was commuted by George W. Bush (R) on July 1, 2007. (2007)[24]
    • Lester Crawford (R) Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, resigned after 2 months. Pleaded guilty to conflict of interest and received 3 years suspended sentence and fined $90,000. (2006) [25]
    • Claude Allen (R) Director of the Domestic Policy Council, was arrested for a series of felony thefts in retail stores. (2006) He was convicted on one count and resigned soon after.[26]
    Legislative branch[edit]
    • William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[27] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006) [28]
    • Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal involves the efforts of Abramoff to influence Congressional action concerning U.S. immigration and minimum wage laws. See Executive branch convictions. Congressmen convicted in the Abramoff scandal include:
    1. Bob Ney (R-OH) pleaded guilty to conspiracy and making false statements as a result of his receiving trips from Abramoff in exchange for legislative favors. Ney received 30 months in prison. (2007)[29]
    • Duke Cunningham (R-CA) pleaded guilty November 28, 2005, to charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion in what came to be called the Cunningham scandal and was sentenced to over eight years in prison. (2005)[30]
    • Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)[31]
    • Bill Janklow (R-SD) was convicted of second-degree manslaughter for running a stop sign and killing a motorcyclist. Resigned from the House and given 100 days in the county jail and three years probation. (2003)[32]
    • Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002) [33]
    1993–2001 (Clinton (D) presidency)[edit]
    Executive branch[edit]
    Legislative branch[edit]
    • Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999) Reynolds served his entire sentence stemming from the first conviction and served 42 months in prison for the bank fraud conviction at which point his sentence was commuted by President Bill Clinton.[40] As a result, Reynolds was released from prison and served his remaining time in a halfway house.[41][42]
    • Walter R. Tucker III (D-CA) was sentenced to 27 months in prison in 1996 for extortion and tax evasion. (1995)[43]
    • Bob Packwood (R-OR), 19 women accused him of sexual misconduct. He fought the allegations, but eventually, the US Senate Ethics Committee found him guilty of a "pattern of abuse of his position of power and authority” and recommended that he be expelled from the Senate. He resigned on Sept. 7, 1995.[44]
    • Wes Cooley (R-OR), was convicted of having lied on the 1994 voter information pamphlet about his service in the Army. He was fined and sentenced to two years probation (1997)[45] After leaving office, Cooley was convicted of income tax fraud connected to an investment scheme. He was sentenced to one year in prison and to pay restitution of $3.5 million to investors and $138,000 to the IRS.[46]
    • Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999) [47]
    • House banking scandal [48] The House of Representatives Bank found that 450 members had overdrawn their checking accounts, but not been penalized. Six were convicted of charges, most only tangentially related to the House Bank itself. Twenty two more of the most prolific over-drafters were singled out by the House Ethics Committee. (1992)
    1. Buz Lukens (R-Ohio) convicted of bribery and conspiracy.[49]
    2. Carl C. Perkins (D-Kentucky) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).[50]
    3. Carroll Hubbard (D-Kentucky) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in congress.[51]
    4. Mary Rose Oakar (D-Ohio) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.[52]
    5. Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.[53]
    1. Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL) was convicted and sentenced to 18 months in prison, in 1995.[55]
    2. Joe Kolter (D-Pennsylvania) pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy and sentenced to 6 months in prison.[56][57]
     
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    Wiki is irrelevant. Try a real news source like RT :D
     
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    That's a question we may never know. Just like how investigation led to experts declaring Obamas certificate of life birth was fake, a government document. Do I think Trump or republicans have never broken laws? I'd say I think they likely have. Those with power, use that power. Those with strength, use that strength.
     

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