How Apple single-handedly lays waste to conservative ideology

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  1. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Forum rules (perhaps) assume y'all may be too dense to figure out why the above might be of interest and worthy of discussion on the Apple-focused MacRumors forum. Personally, I think y'all are smart enough to figure it out. Anyway, please note that the commentary looks at Apple's (our common interest on MacRumors) success and how it relates to politics and social issues (this sub-forum). Needless to say (you'd think), by posting the commentary here I feel it has some merit. Please feel free to discuss.
     
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    Conservative ideology. Seems Apple likes to practice it just fine.
     
  4. mgguy macrumors 6502

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    Yet another mindless bashing of conservative ideology.
     
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    Apple answers to it's shareholders like any other corporate entity and all it's actions are directed at increasing corporate profits.
     
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    To be fair, I suspect that many of the people working at Apple do so without thinking too much about profits.
     
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    Most corporation employees aren't thinking about profits. For example, the director of an artsy motion picture isn't thinking about profits (probably) but the producers sure are. Apple employees are working out of love but corporate is concerned with profits and the stock price.
     
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    Pretty obvious the users here are mostly oblivious to the sweat shop conditions that Apple operates under in China , but hey let's pretend "conservative ideology " it's evil while typing from our Apple products:D
     
  10. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    What sweatshop conditions are they?
     
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    Foxconn sweatshops, the same sweatshops that so-called liberals have been railing against for years. You know, working for pennies, employees throwing themselves off of rooftops, zero safety regulations, etc.

    However, since Tim came out of the closet and toed the line on climate change, liberals are OK with Foxconn's sweatshops. They have their priorities, after all.
     
  12. BigInDallas macrumors regular

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    How Apple single-handedly lays waste to conservative ideology

    If anyone thinks Apple is in business for anything other than $$$$$. Your wrong. It's always about the dollar in the business world. They are extremely successful at making that money.
     
  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I see you point.

    Thanks for pointing out the conservative values that Apple embraces.
     
  14. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    so much for pushing for a "living wage" :p
     
  15. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    All this post tells me is Apple is really good at marketing. You fell for all of their marketing.

    1) Apple doesn't actually make anything in California. All of their work is done in significantly cheaper states/countries (in fact, isn't the Texas built processor of the iPhone the only piece of iPhone hardware made in the US?).

    2) The beliefs of the Corporate leader are his own, but at the end of the day, Apple only cares about making money.

    3) The climate change thing is nice, but they hire so many business partners to work with them, they do as much damage as they do good.

    Most of this is just marketing.
     
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    If you're referring to capitalism, there's absolutely nothing conservative about that ideology. Despite the fact that conservatives tried to hijack the term for themselves in an attempt to paint liberals as socialists. Liberalism and Capitalism are NOT mutually exclusive.
     
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    YOU need to ask the OP what HE meant by "conservative ideology" , only the poor practice capitalism, they are on their own, apple like many others practice corporatism.

    fine & dandy talking about GW/CC while polluting China using sweat shop labor.

    why are not ALL those jobs HERE? don't they want to pay a living wage?
    or is the EPA getting in the way?
     
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    I really hate it when people try to cast everything as a "conservative" or a "liberal" issue. OP, the way Apple works has **** all to do with either of those.
     
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    I'd rather wipe my own rump after a dump and then try and decipher the smears before reading anything on the dailykos.

    They will not be making any ad revenue off me.
     
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    It's not that awesome that :apple: is worth more than switzerland and sweden.
    Sweden is basically Ikea and Switzerland hills, cows and above ground electric wires.
     
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    Those peace loving Swedes are also one of the world's largest arms exporters. They'll sell anything to any rogue nation or warlord, so long as they have the cash.
     
  22. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    So the issue is that they have (and always have had) a lower suicide rate than China, the UK, Oxford and Cambridge universities and all 50 U.S. States and that isn't enough?

    And they probably earn the better part of $1000/month disposable these days, which is probably better than some professionals I know.

    I've always been OK with Foxconn's "sweatshops".

    Right, so some abuses, which Apple generally deals with, means working with China is bad?
     
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    It's easy for Apple to afford liberal policies, they only pay around 2% tax on profits. Of course, I don't know how that fits with "pay your fair share", but given the tax dodging proclivities of Al Sharpton and other MSNBC hosts, I guess it fits right in. Kind of a "progressive taxes for thee, but not for me" kinda thing.
     
  24. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    of course working with China is bad, they pollute the hell out of the country & stick it to the workers at the same time .
    if Apple wanted to practice what they pretend to preach those jobs would be in the U.S.
     

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