How is my Mum sending MMS messages without a data plan? (Rogers)

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by patent10021, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. patent10021 macrumors 68030


    Apr 23, 2004
    My Mum is able to receive and send MMS messages without a data plan here on Rogers Canada. It's weird cause she'll get messages from Rogers saying that she needs a data plan yet she is texting to everyone without a data plan. (she only uses the phone. No browsing etc.)

    It does say MMS so I guess MMS requires no data plan? You just need contacts' phone numbers?
  2. RenoG macrumors 65816

    Oct 7, 2010
    ehh she'll find out when the phone bill arrives.....thats usually how all my :confused: are confirmed followed by a call to the carrier.
  3. DMSWE macrumors newbie

    Jul 11, 2010
    MMS has been around since way before data plans and smart phones. At least in Europe it's not uncommon to pay per MMS or get a number of them free in your plan - same as for SMS really. So no data plan needed.
  4. lordofthereef macrumors G5


    Nov 29, 2011
    Boston, MA
    To be clear, MMS does technically use data (in the sense that it uses similar protocols to send the image as you would with data). That said, it doesn't eat data, or it shouldn't, on your data plan. Simply put most (all?) networks do not require a data plan to be active to send MMS. The message Mom is getting is likely one that the carrier sends out when they see you are using a smartphone without a data plan.
  5. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    Is "here" Canada or Japan?

    In Canada she'll likely be charged 20 cents a message. In Japan, more.

    However she may have a talk and text plan. This is the kind of thing you could figure out a lot more easily on the Rogers web site by looking at her account than you can here.
  6. patent10021 thread starter macrumors 68030


    Apr 23, 2004
    Sorry, I'm living in Japan. Mum is in Canada. She does not have a data plan so yes I guess she's getting carrier messages to let her know she might "need" one. I wonder if she is actually paying 0.20 cents/MMS and she doesn't know it. I insisted that she get a plan but she's ant-technolgy (got the iPhone for free). So maybe this will motivate her to get a plan lol
  7. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    If she's anti-tech she's probably better off without a plan, since I assume she's not messaging up a storm
  8. sviato macrumors 68020


    Oct 27, 2010
    HR 9038 A
    MMS doesn't necessarily require a data plan. She'll likely get charged $0.50-1 per MMS sent and received on her next bill (as fido does to me, since I don't have an MMS addon)
  9. ET iPhone Home macrumors 68040

    ET iPhone Home

    Oct 5, 2011
    Orange County, California USA
    I think your mum's messages are deducted from her minutes. I signed up my parents unlocked 4 with T-Mobile, and their text messages are deducted from their minutes - 1 text = 1 minute.
  10. SnowLeopard2008 macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    Lol, it's the British way of saying Mom? At least, that's what I garnered from watching Harry Potter :p
  11. eastercat macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2008
    They're those big decorated flowers you see at high school homecoming events. :D
  12. Wrathwitch macrumors 65816

    Dec 4, 2009
    Is there any chance that she has a 10 faves list? If she is texting to those people she shouldn't need a data plan. However, if the carrier is telling her she needs one... very odd and likely to end up expensive.
  13. patent10021 thread starter macrumors 68030


    Apr 23, 2004
    Thanks guys. She rarely even sends MMS (even if she's unaware she is) so I think I'll just let her do what she's been doing lol I really want her to buy the new iPhone next month because she can't install most new apps on her phone because the first gen iPhone doesn't have iOS 5.

    I'd also like to be able to track her from Japan and all that fun stuff. :D
  14. sarcosis macrumors 6502a

    Apr 25, 2006
    These United States
    Easiest way to find out if she has been encouraging charges is to drop into the local Rogers store and inquire about it or give customer service a call. They can look up your records and give you a definitive answer.

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