How is my Mum sending MMS messages without a data plan? (Rogers)

patent10021

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My Mum is able to receive and send MMS messages without a data plan here on Rogers Canada. It's weird cause she'll get messages from Rogers saying that she needs a data plan yet she is texting to everyone without a data plan. (she only uses the phone. No browsing etc.)

It does say MMS so I guess MMS requires no data plan? You just need contacts' phone numbers?
 

RenoG

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My Mum is able to receive and send MMS messages without a data plan here on Rogers Canada. It's weird cause she'll get messages from Rogers saying that she needs a data plan yet she is texting to everyone without a data plan. (she only uses the phone. No browsing etc.)

It does say MMS so I guess MMS requires no data plan? You just need contacts' phone numbers?
ehh she'll find out when the phone bill arrives.....thats usually how all my :confused: are confirmed followed by a call to the carrier.
 

DMSWE

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My Mum is able to receive and send MMS messages without a data plan here on Rogers Canada. It's weird cause she'll get messages from Rogers saying that she needs a data plan yet she is texting to everyone without a data plan. (she only uses the phone. No browsing etc.)

It does say MMS so I guess MMS requires no data plan? You just need contacts' phone numbers?
MMS has been around since way before data plans and smart phones. At least in Europe it's not uncommon to pay per MMS or get a number of them free in your plan - same as for SMS really. So no data plan needed.
 

lordofthereef

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To be clear, MMS does technically use data (in the sense that it uses similar protocols to send the image as you would with data). That said, it doesn't eat data, or it shouldn't, on your data plan. Simply put most (all?) networks do not require a data plan to be active to send MMS. The message Mom is getting is likely one that the carrier sends out when they see you are using a smartphone without a data plan.
 

NewbieCanada

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Is "here" Canada or Japan?

In Canada she'll likely be charged 20 cents a message. In Japan, more.

However she may have a talk and text plan. This is the kind of thing you could figure out a lot more easily on the Rogers web site by looking at her account than you can here.
 

patent10021

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Is "here" Canada or Japan?

In Canada she'll likely be charged 20 cents a message. In Japan, more.

However she may have a talk and text plan. This is the kind of thing you could figure out a lot more easily on the Rogers web site by looking at her account than you can here.
Sorry, I'm living in Japan. Mum is in Canada. She does not have a data plan so yes I guess she's getting carrier messages to let her know she might "need" one. I wonder if she is actually paying 0.20 cents/MMS and she doesn't know it. I insisted that she get a plan but she's ant-technolgy (got the iPhone for free). So maybe this will motivate her to get a plan lol
 

NewbieCanada

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I insisted that she get a plan but she's ant-technolgy (got the iPhone for free). So maybe this will motivate her to get a plan lol
If she's anti-tech she's probably better off without a plan, since I assume she's not messaging up a storm
 

sviato

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MMS doesn't necessarily require a data plan. She'll likely get charged $0.50-1 per MMS sent and received on her next bill (as fido does to me, since I don't have an MMS addon)
 

ET iPhone Home

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My Mum is able to receive and send MMS messages without a data plan here on Rogers Canada. It's weird cause she'll get messages from Rogers saying that she needs a data plan yet she is texting to everyone without a data plan. (she only uses the phone. No browsing etc.)

It does say MMS so I guess MMS requires no data plan? You just need contacts' phone numbers?
I think your mum's messages are deducted from her minutes. I signed up my parents unlocked 4 with T-Mobile, and their text messages are deducted from their minutes - 1 text = 1 minute.
 

Wrathwitch

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Is there any chance that she has a 10 faves list? If she is texting to those people she shouldn't need a data plan. However, if the carrier is telling her she needs one... very odd and likely to end up expensive.
 

patent10021

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Thanks guys. She rarely even sends MMS (even if she's unaware she is) so I think I'll just let her do what she's been doing lol I really want her to buy the new iPhone next month because she can't install most new apps on her phone because the first gen iPhone doesn't have iOS 5.

I'd also like to be able to track her from Japan and all that fun stuff. :D
 

sarcosis

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Easiest way to find out if she has been encouraging charges is to drop into the local Rogers store and inquire about it or give customer service a call. They can look up your records and give you a definitive answer.