How long will it take for macs with blu-ray USB 3 and/or FW3200 to be released?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Muffin87, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. Muffin87 macrumors member

    May 7, 2007
    I know that these particular topics might have already been treated separately in different threads, but there's something I cannot understand Apple's putting off - some - of the last technologies in high-end computers.

    I've already looked up on several blogs and forums, but I cannot find a proper answer.

    When is Apple expected to release its first computers featuring a blu-ray burner, and possibly USB 3.0 and/or FW 1600/3200?

    It maybe somewhat precocious to adopt USB 3.0 or FW 1600/3200 in this very moment, but blu-ray burners are anyway quite spread among high-end laptops.

    Thanks if advance for replying,
  2. elpmas macrumors 68000


    Sep 9, 2009
    Where the fresh snow don't go.
  3. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    Apple has shown no real interest in adopting Blu-ray, and to the contrary, they have shunned it

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
  4. Anonymous Freak macrumors 603

    Anonymous Freak

    Dec 12, 2002
    First, nobody that actually knows will answer.

    Blu-ray: Apple has publicly slammed Blu-ray before. They sell HD movies on iTunes. They have deals with movie studios to provide "Digital Copies" via iTunes for movies released on Blu-ray. Very doubtful. Blu-ray would have to obviously completely displace DVDs before this happens. Sadly, this probably also means that they won't do Blu-ray recordable because people would complain about the lack of Blu-ray movie playback.

    FireWire 1600/3200: Theoretically, Apple should be on this. But the standard has been around as long as FireWire 800, and they haven't done it yet. And, they've been slowly moving away from FireWire other than for their high-end professional systems. Admittedly, these are the systems that could benefit most from it. The downside is that FireWire >800's major target is external storage; and eSATA is faster for that. (Of course, they don't do eSATA, either.)

    USB 3.0: While the standard is finalized, it's only offered by third-party add-on chipsets, not by Intel integrated chipsets, right now. While Apple does occasionally include 'ahead of the curve' technology, there is no major compelling reason for USB 3.0 right now. So it seems more likely that Apple would wait for it to be integrated into the chipsets they're already buying.

    The missing one on your list, that would *REALLY* be good is eSATA. It's already around, already a well-established standard, and doesn't have the problems Blu-ray does. The only reason I can think Apple is not including it is that they don't want to kill off FireWire quite yet. (Yes, I know FireWire has much more than just disks available, but it is FW's primary use.)
  5. MitchLewis macrumors member

    Jan 29, 2010
  6. Badger^2 macrumors 68000


    Oct 29, 2009
    USB 3 looks promising, but it still has stupid limitations, like needing 2 USB ports to power a portable USB drive, ugh.

    I might like BR for storage, but for watching movies, Ive got a 50" TV for that.

    eSATA is speedy, it might be OK to ad an eSATA port, but its limiting as well. 1 port = 1 drive and NO bus power. Not the most useful for some things.

    For "backup" USB 2 is more than enough -- daily incremental backups should be fairly small for most normal users -- but even updating 2 gigs or new data should only take a minute or 2.
  7. appleguy123 macrumors 604


    Apr 1, 2009
    15 minutes in the future
    I would say that in 2-3 revisions we will get USB 3. I don't think we will get Blueray because it would hurt Apple's iTunes HD sales. Apple would have phased firewire out by now if it wasn't for the public outrage when we pulled it from the aluminum MacBooks, so I don't think we will get FireWire 1600/3200. And don't forget about lightpeak :)
  8. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    Intel has said no USB 3.0 in their chipsets until 2011.
  9. brendu macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2009
    i think the mac pro will be the only mac to ever have usb3.0. the rest of the mac lineup will have lightpeak as they push it out as the new standard... who knows if it will take off, but i think it will win over usb3. as far as bluray it will never be added to macs unless you swap the drive yourself. apple does not want you watching bluray on their products they want you using the itunes store... i disagree with it but its apple...
  10. blouis79 macrumors member

    Jun 7, 2005
    It's dumb that Apple doesn't have a proper media centre that can record HDTV and play Blurays. Surely they are working on it......

    Windows 7 Media Centre + PowerDVD works but $ucks at the same time.
  11. furqan8421 macrumors member

    Jun 27, 2007
    If that's Apple's reasoning for no bluray then it is a poor excuse. Apple TV is not that successful in the first place, and even if you own one if I'm correct their HD is limited to 720p. I'd rather buy a bluray to play in 1080p on my TV, and then also use the same disc on my computer.
  12. LethalWolfe macrumors G3


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles
    From a consumer point of view that makes sense but Apple apparently wants you to get your movies and TV shows only from the iTunes store. Once Apple got in the media distribution business their focus shifted.

  13. XxEjGxX macrumors regular

    Dec 18, 2009
    usb 3.0, not very far away
    blu-ray... very unlikely to ever come to them, apple hate blu-ray and publicly speak down on it [​IMG]
  14. macjunk(ie) macrumors 6502a

    Aug 12, 2009
    HP Envy Intel core i7 models ship with USB 3...
  15. Fishrrman macrumors G5


    Feb 20, 2009
    "blu-ray... very unlikely to ever come to them, apple hate blu-ray and publicly speak down on it"

    According the the MacRumors news page, Steve Jobs just held a "town hall" meeting and the gist of his comments regarding BluRay:
    "Blu-Ray software is a mess, and Apple will wait until sales really start to take off before implementing it."

    What this indicates to me is that Apple _will_ embrace BluRay - but only when Mr. Jobs sees some $$$ in it.

    We are seeing more "vectors" by which folks are getting BluRay working with Mac (even if they have to view BD movies using BootCamp on the Mac).

    BluRay _will_ come to the Mac.
    It's just a matter of time.
  16. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
  17. sarge macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2003
    Good point Lethal. Unfortunately Blu Ray experience has on the whole been generally frustrating. I bought the Panasonic BD35 about 15months ago and it won't play any titles released in the last 2-3 months. Even though I've done updates the Panny firmware doesn't seem to be current. What a headache.
  18. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030


    Jul 21, 2009
    United Kingdom
    Blu-Ray: Practically never, even Steve Jobs said it's not worth it.
    USB 3.0: Soon, maybe end of 2010, start of 2011.
    FW3200: Maybe on the Mac Pro end of 2010.
  19. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    And lots of companies that make blu-ray players don't support them well. The studios keep changing the encryption stuff to block piracy, but the player cos can't keep up with the changes, or simply don't want to bother supporting anything but their latest players. I think this is one of the biggest issues with blu-ray. You buy a player and you have to constantly keep updating it and hoping the latest update doesn't brick the player. It's the primary reason I refuse to buy blu-ray.
  20. maxeman macrumors newbie

    Jan 14, 2010
    I completely agree. Apple lacks with the apple tv and its capabilities compared to the home theater entertainment standards. Whoever buys Apple TV is wasting money.
  21. Habitus macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2009
    Where ever my life takes me...

    According to my self, Apple will include the listed options in two weeks!

    Get ready!

    Habitus :apple:
  22. HBOC macrumors 68020

    Oct 14, 2008
    I dont think we will see anything faster than FW800. LightPeak will take FWs' place, and USB3 probably next year, but who knows. If there is a big upgrade/update, we may see it in the fall...

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