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How much price difference do you expect the new MacBook 14’’ to have? Will it be more or less expensive than the current m1 MacBook Pro?
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It’ll probably replace the high end Intel 13” still available. Son probably around $1799 (or higher) starting price. That’s my guess.
that would be the 14”, 16 GB RAM with 256 GB .. right? So the base model for M1X, correct?
There are two lines of 13” MacBook Pro:
The 2-port and the 4-port. Traditionally, the 2-port versions were cheaper and came with less powerful processors. The 4-port versions were much better but also were more expensive. Currently only the 2-port version of the 13” got updated to M1 so the newer 14” is supposed to replace the 4-port version of the 13”. If that sounds confusing it’s because it is.
Like fishkorp said, it’ll at least start at $1799 and maybe start at $1,999 as it’s a new design and they’re expecting high demand due to chip shortages.
The 2-port and the 4-port. Traditionally, the 2-port versions were cheaper and came with less powerful processors. The 4-port versions were much better but also were more expensive. Currently only the 2-port version of the 13” got updated to M1 so the newer 14” is supposed to replace the 4-port version of the 13”. If that sounds confusing it’s because it is.
Like fishkorp said, it’ll at least start at $1799 and maybe start at $1,999 as it’s a new design and they’re expecting high demand due to chip shortages.
It would likely start with 16GB of ram, and 512GB of storage which is currently the baseline config for the 4-port. Yes likely an M1X chip so it can support more ram and ports.
I think this could go either one of two ways. The most likely scenario is that it will replace the current 13" MBP, since Apple only needed to replace the logic board in that model. Everything else was identical, so there would be little loss in the cost of tooling.
However, there is a point to be made that the 14" will likely be more expensive. By how much remains to be seen...
However, there is a point to be made that the 14" will likely be more expensive. By how much remains to be seen...
so to get this right, as of now the M1 pro is about $1699 for 16GB with 512GB storage..
And the guess is that the new 14’’ model would be about $1799 for 16GB with 512GB but with the newer and faster M1X..
so that’s about $100 difference for a newer chip ..
I kinda wanted the new 14’’ to be more than 100$ expensive to justify getting an M1 now instead of waiting, oh well
Based on the previous guesses on this thread, the most common answer seems to be only slightly more expensive for a better chip
Slightly more expensive? Really? You don’t know Apple. The 14“ LCD monitor, one inch larger, that cost slightly more than a 13 inch monitor. Maybe a real dedicated GPU or at least a better version integrated GPU. Additional ports, and offer maybe 32 GB of memory. 14 incher, perhaps slightly over $2000 American bucks decked out. Of course absolutely no one here knows for sure, just guesses.
But I mean if the current M1 pro model for 16GB, 512GB storage is 1699$ and the M1X 14” is about 1799$-1899$, that’s a 100-200$ difference ..but this difference comes with a new chip, a bigger screen and more GPU cores
I’m just trying to compare
Reminder that the current display size is 13.3", not 13.0"
... and does anyone know for sure the actual size of the rumored 14" display? 14.0? 14.4? 14.9?
In any event, I'm expecting folks to be underwhelmed. My lenovo work computer has a 14.0" display and there's really no perceivable size difference to me in daily side by side usage with my M1 MBP's 13.3" display.
Pricing I anticipate being in line with what it's been for the prior 4-port MBP models.
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The 16” replaced the 15” without any price increase.
Your Lenovo work computer most likely has a low quality display, as Lenovo’s do… but to be honest, the difference between the 15” abs the 16” MBP is minor at best. The laptop is the same size, only the bezels are smaller.
Don’t forget that the 14 inch will have lots more ports than the 13” In addition to the M1 chip, perhaps better speakers, better facetime camera. My guess is, it will cost 1,899 for the low end offerings and up from there. Over $2,100 w/16 Gb / 512 SSD / AppleCare plus
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I was solely referring to the perceived size difference between 13.3" and 14.0" diagonal displays.
... and yes, going from a 15.4 MBP to the 16.0 MBP would be minor since that's a less than 4% increase in diagonal and less than 8% in overall screen real estate.
Says who? IMO it will have the usual four thunderbolt 4 ports and maybe an HDMI port on top of that.
The only real reason I see for a price increase is the miniLED display, those are expensive and the supply is heavily constrained.
I agree. I think we are looking at at least a $125 price increase. I am guessing the base model will start at $1999.00 @Bea220
I have a feeling the 14" could replace the 13" outright. Everything I'm seeing from Youtube (Luke Miani as an example) suggests the 14" has only two full thunderbolt ports (with the one on the RHS being USB-C only like the iMac) which implies to me it's an M1 and not an M1X or whatever they will be called.
Only 2 thunderbolt ports with the M1 is fantastic value for the Mac mini, MacBook Air etc. but it becomes harder to justify at the price of the high end 13". On the other hand, if it does have a fantastic new display, 16GB RAM, more ports, possibly Face ID, then I suppose that does go some way to justifying the price. It just seems odd to sell a 2k computer no faster than a baseline Mac mini (+RAM BTO upgrade cost).
Maybe they are 3 full thunderbolt ports and Apple has removed one to make room for the other ports and to justify upgrading to the 16", which itself becomes more difficult to justify if the 14" and 16" top out with the same processor.
Only 2 thunderbolt ports with the M1 is fantastic value for the Mac mini, MacBook Air etc. but it becomes harder to justify at the price of the high end 13". On the other hand, if it does have a fantastic new display, 16GB RAM, more ports, possibly Face ID, then I suppose that does go some way to justifying the price. It just seems odd to sell a 2k computer no faster than a baseline Mac mini (+RAM BTO upgrade cost).
Maybe they are 3 full thunderbolt ports and Apple has removed one to make room for the other ports and to justify upgrading to the 16", which itself becomes more difficult to justify if the 14" and 16" top out with the same processor.
My guess is it will start at $1799, but that will come only with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage. Why? Because Apple. You have to top up $400 extra to get 16GB and 512GB storage, so in reality, it will be a price increase to $2199.
If I recall correct and the ransomware leak is to be trusted. It is 3 thunderbolt ports + magsafe + sdcard + hdmi + mini-jack.
Ah, that thing… I have to say, I am very skeptical about those leaks. They dint show much and the only schematics actually showing ports is strangely misaligned. I just don’t believe that Apple would ship anything that looks this crappy.
The way I see it, under Tim Cook, Apple became a company very focused on the "price point". More than ever, Apple became specialized in squeezing every dollar out of every consumer.
By doing so, Apple will want to charge a premium for any new features, especially those which are exclusive to Macs. However, at the same time, Apple will not want to alienate its consumer base.
A consumer that pays $999 for a MacBook Air will not necessarily buy a $1799 MacBook Pro. Not all consumers have a pile of money just waiting to be spent on Apple's new products. And I suppose that most people that buy a Mac end up choosing the cheaper models, simply because they cannot afford the most expensive ones.
I think Apple will either keep some of the old models available for $999 and offer the new ones for a higher price, or offer just the new ones for a similar price, or perhaps a little bit more expensive (like $1099), but not too much not to scare current customers away.
By doing so, Apple will want to charge a premium for any new features, especially those which are exclusive to Macs. However, at the same time, Apple will not want to alienate its consumer base.
A consumer that pays $999 for a MacBook Air will not necessarily buy a $1799 MacBook Pro. Not all consumers have a pile of money just waiting to be spent on Apple's new products. And I suppose that most people that buy a Mac end up choosing the cheaper models, simply because they cannot afford the most expensive ones.
I think Apple will either keep some of the old models available for $999 and offer the new ones for a higher price, or offer just the new ones for a similar price, or perhaps a little bit more expensive (like $1099), but not too much not to scare current customers away.
I'd say it was an essential part of Apple's business strategy long before Tim Cook's influence. Unfortunately, there have been casualties in the process, most notably the "real" 13" MacBook Pro, which went from $1299 to $1699.
Looking back, imo it's just Apple being Apple, whether Cook or Jobs on the helm.
It makes sense from a business strategy perspective. An entry model is still required to be at that sweet spot base price. Remember how long Apple kept 16GB as the base storage on iPhones, and remember how they made 16GB as base and 64GB as the next tier storage? That's simply a marketing trick to nudge people to just get the 64GB model (and ending up spending more money). There's also the strategy of the iPhone 12 mini, just to keep the "$699" base price, while in reality, there's actually a price increase for the iPhone 12 from the previous iPhone 11.
And Apple has been practicing this even with the iPods under Jobs. Sometimes with exclusive color (eg. iPod nano 2nd gen, base 2GB only came in silver. If you wanted colors, you had to spend more for the 4GB model. and if you wanted black, you had to spend even more for the 8GB model) just for people to spend more money.
Regular consumers don't notice this. All they see is the base price, got interested in the product, and when they made the purchasing, they would most likely spend more since the higher tier will look like a better deal just for a bit more. The strategy is extremely successful in the fastfood industry. Upsizing your fries and soda for just a bit more? All the time. The problem is for us who understand tech, specifications, and the numbers, it becomes extremely annoying, especially if we are also budget conscious with what we get for the money we spend.
Correct answer right here.
However if the 14” MBP gets the XDR display like the iPad Pro has, expect an other $100 on top of it.