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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by thewap, Feb 28, 2016.
An excellent video by Ben Swann, quickly explaining who ISIS is and who created them and why.
Sorry, but I subscribe to the version that predates CBS's, ( former home of Dan Rather's lies and distortions. )
Here's ISIS beginnings, care of Frontline on PBS, 2014.
"Reported by Martin Smith, the hourlong program takes the story of this brutal, ever-growing militant group back to the final departure of American troops from Iraq in 2011. It’s a dense, fast-moving narrative focused on the failure of the Shiite-led Iraqi government to share power with the Sunni minority and the inaction of the United States while Sunni militants exploited the situation for their own gain. Blame is placed, quite directly, on the former Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki and on President Obama."
Let's repeat that last sentence.
"Blame is placed, quite directly, on the former Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki and on President Obama."
Why the US wanted ISIS -
Obama and the libs gave us ISIS. It will be up to Trump to cut off their funding and kill the movement.
Actually it was Bush and Cheney that gave us ISIS.
Actually the Turks gave us ISIS.
It all started with the fall of Saddam.
No, it started with the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
Daesh was created through a joint effort of the Bush/Obama administration, collaborating western powers and saudi arabia.
The terror organisations all have weapons from the US and the sourrounding nations are buying their oil.
Just like the taliban, who were trained by the CIA and headed by the Bush / royal Saudi families.
A response as correct as it is sarcastic. I RESPECT YOU, CHOWN!
Bless you, sir.
(Another response that's both correct and sarcastic.)
...it's a totally sincere statement, if you know what's good for you.
It really started with the Late Heavy Bombardment.
I'm always sincere, even in my sarcasm. Maybe then especially.
By that logic, we'd have to lay blame, not on Mark David Chapman for killing Lennon, but on Chapman's mom.
I blame his dad.
Considering how many of Saddam's ex-Republican Guard make up the higher echelons of the organization, I'd say it's pretty apt.
Frontline covers how ISIS started in the vacuum left by the troops Obama removed, without leaving so much as a splinter group to keep an eye on things. ISIS in its very beginnings could have been quashed right then and there. And no matter how much info was emerging about ISIS rising stronger, Obama sat on his hands until they grew way stronger, only for Obama to reply that ISIS was a JV team.
Bush created AlQeada - Obama / Clinton create ISIS - Now we must destroy ISIS, but then Russia, Iran, China intervene and start destroying ISIS, Now US wants to confront Iran after paying them off, and confront Russia and China who are destroying our enemy. - Completely logical !
So if there was no AlQeada would we still have had ISIS?
Yes of course. But AlQ is funded by us.
Actually I think it was Mohammad's fault.
In reality these less evolved primates have been fighting each other for thousands of years, regardless of whatever new name they give themselves. The US can't police them forever. Stay out of there and let them kill each other.
If you want to go back that far, lets go a little further back and say it started with Abraham.
Actually it was both Bush & Co. and Obama & Co.
It started with the Big Bang.