How U.S. Fell Under the Spell of 'Curveball'

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by IJ Reilly, Nov 20, 2005.

  1. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
  2. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    Why believe anything those 'old' Europeans have to say? Bunch of weak-kneed appeasers.
  3. zimv20 macrumors 601


    Jul 18, 2002
    i wish those guys had spoken up 2 1/2 years ago.
  4. Sogo macrumors 6502

    Jan 4, 2004
  5. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    Perhaps they didn't want their wives and families at risk.
  6. Sayhey macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2003
    San Francisco
    This is a very important story. It shows that the Bush administration knew well before they stopped using the information that their most important source on WMD in Iraq was untrustworthy. The question is fast becoming what solid evidence, if any, did they have for pushing us to war. They used old unreliable evidence from before the inspectors left Iraq in the Clinton administration and a series of what they knew were either lies or wholly unreliable stories from sources within an Iraqi émigré community, all to justify this invasion.

    A couple parts of this story that should be emphasized are the following,
    LA Times

    Not only did they have no way to confirm his allegations, but they ignored those who questioned, even including proof from the UN inspectors that he was lying, in order to lay the ground work for an invasion they wanted regardless of the truth. ATM and crdean1 are you paying attention? :rolleyes:
  7. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    The evidence is really piling up, isn't it? Now it's not just "disgruntled former federal employees" and "liberal extremists". Now it's also foreigners. 'Course, you can't trust them ferriners, can you?

    It just saddens me that all this didn't come out over a year ago.

    Well, perhaps it wouldn't have made a difference. In the heat of the campaign, the Republican Noise Machine was ramped up way higher than it is even now, and I'm not sure the public was willing to hear the truth anyhow.
  8. solvs macrumors 603


    Jun 25, 2002
    LaLaLand, CA
    As far as I can tell, they never stopped. It's just that no one who could do anything was listening.

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