How will this old mac run WoW?

Discussion in 'Games' started by 7254278, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. 7254278 macrumors 68020

    Apr 11, 2004
    How will this old upgraded sawtooth run WoW compared to my iBook G4? I am asking this becasue I am considering getting a video card upgrade very cheaply.

    1.6 Ghz G4
    896MB SD Ram
    5400 RPM HDD
    100mhz bus
    Radeon 8500 64 MB(consider picking this up for 20 euros, but doubtful about WoW performance)

    1.2 Ghz G4
    768MB PC2700 Ram
    4200 RPM HDD
    333mhz bus(I think)
    Radeon MOBILITY 9200 32 MB

    iBook gets 12-18 FPS on lowest settings and I am wondering how well my sawtooth might do and If I can crank up the eye candy a bit.

    EDIT: How will it run games in general compared to the ibook
  2. madog macrumors 65816


    Nov 25, 2004
    Korova Milkbar
    I have a similar setup with one of the original Sawtooth G4's upgraded with 832mb of RAM, a 1.4ghz processor, and a Radeon 8500@64mb; and I played WoW for about 8 months. The game ran ooooooooooooooooook under minimal settings. Something like: all graphic sliders set to a minimum [besides maybe one of the texture sliders set at the next lowest] along with at least a 1024 resolution [sometimes would set everything to low to put it at 1600 on my 22" crt] and some other settings I can't recall at all most likely turned off.

    The game was very playable while soloing running at around 15fps and did fine in 5-man instances. The towns, however, [org and ironforge] were choppy at best during peak hours and I would often find myself lagging into the pit in IF or otherwise end up in some wall 30 seconds later. Back when I used to play, 10 and 15 man raids on instances [which I believe now have been reduced to 5 and 10 man, respectively] were common but they were hardly playable.

    Basically, if my setup could handle 10+ people I would still be a mindless tool, playing in the larger 40 man raids, staying up until 6am and be about 50lbs lighter and without this beautiful tan [God I miss WoW].

    So yeah, your setup could handle WoW for the most part, but when you start getting up at higher levels doing harder quests with more and more people your computer will not be able to handle it. Even when I lowered my settings completely down with a 640x480 res. being in these raids was unplayable. Also, being that I have such an old computer my standards are much lower than "normal" gamers so, yeah, it got pretty bad.

    Good luck.

    edit: Compared to your iBook? Better, but not by much. :)
  3. 7254278 thread starter macrumors 68020

    Apr 11, 2004
    Good to know madog, anyone else have any input?
  4. CubeHacker macrumors 65816


    Apr 22, 2003
    The Radeon 8500 and 9200 are basically the same card, so performance between the two would be almost identical. The game would probably run a bit faster on the Powermac by maybe 10-20%, but it still wouldn't be all that much better than what you have now.

    A used PC edition of the Radeon 9800Pro flashed to mac would be a far better option.
  5. scorpiorising macrumors newbie

    Sep 12, 2006
    before my 24" iMac arrived last week, i spent over a year playing on a 733MHz Quicksilver w/ a nVidia geforce 4ti and 1gb ram....raided everything with it, just have to get used to performing at 3-4fps in a 40-man...the card was so beefy that i could play @ 1600x1200 w/ all settings cranked (except max view distance, which was at minimum) including shaders and full-screen glow and still hit 20-30fps when playing solo, only got chuggy when other people were around.

    your biggest setback in that sawtooth is the graphics card...i got my ti card cheap from a used machine (the guy who sold didn't even realize what it was in there, so i snagged it for cheap)....finding a cheap pc card and flashing it would definitely be your best bet
  6. 7254278 thread starter macrumors 68020

    Apr 11, 2004
    They are more or less the same card but the 9200 in my ibook is a MOBILITY version so its slower and the 8500 has double the vram.
  7. lordjonny macrumors regular


    Sep 18, 2006
    I used to have an ibook G4 800 and it ran WoW really well with 640 ram i thought anyway, it also ran well on a G4 933 with 768 ram so i dont think you should have any trouble.
  8. Mord macrumors G4


    Aug 24, 2003
    the 8500 is a decent card and will run it well, it's not identical to the 9200/9000 it's just similar and a fair bit faster.
  9. cluthz macrumors 68040


    Jun 15, 2004
    I'm playing wow (about everyday :p ) on a 1.5GHz Powerbook with 5200 card.
    It runs fairly well, althougth you don't get blazing performance in bigger raids.
    Turning of names on friendly units helps alot, some does lowering visible range. When it comes to resolution i get same performance in 1280*1024 as i do with 640*480 and strangely window-mode is slightly faster than fullscreen..

    I've tried it most encounters that exist in Wow, MC/BWL/AQ40 (except ct'hun) and First bosses in naxx

    I guess your upgraded sawtooth will have much the same performance, which is find usable, but ofc it could be much better..
  10. DougTheImpaler macrumors 6502a

    Feb 28, 2006
    Central Illinois
    The 8500 is a much better card than a 9200 in that it is a 4x2 pipeline layout, with twice the fillrate of a Radeon 9000/9200 and their 4x1 layout, and the 8500 runs at 275MHz vs. 240 for the 9000/9200. Also, a special case is the 9200 in the iBook/eMac/MacMini runs on a 64-bit DDR memory bus, compared to a "real" 9200/9000/8500 running with a 128-bit DDR memory bus. Compound THAT with the fact that the video memory in an iBook/eMac/MacMini is running at 190MHz instead of a regular 9200's stock 250MHz. The net result? The 8500 has twice the fillrate, twice the graphics RAM, and twice the memory bandwidth (which is good for big textures like in WoW) of the onboard graphics in any 9200-equipped Mac.

    What does that get you in terms of real performance? In this case, not a whole lot; any G4 is really underpowered for good performance in WoW. Realistically, your best WoW bet is to get a rev B iMac G5 (Radeon 9600) or later, or a G5 tower with anything but the GeForce FX 5200 in it.

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