Hundreds of Trump supporters and counter-protesters face off at Berkeley rally

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There are marches all across the USA today to demand Trump release his tax returns. At least one isn't going so well"

"About 500 pro-Trump demonstrators and counter-protesters faced off Saturday morning at a “Patriots Day” rally in Berkeley, where the two groups have violently clashed on city streets twice in the last three months."

Way to ruin a beautiful spring day.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-trump-rally-20170415-story.html
 

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Yeah, they are beating the **** out of each other now. Riot police are there, tear gas has been shot.
 

RootBeerMan

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It's tax day, not Patriots day. The buffoons on either side can't get anything right.
 

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Wow I have so many other things I'd like to do rather than a trump/antifa rally.


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What you don't understand is that if one side wins, the other side ceases to exist. If the Trumpers win, all the dissenting democrats disappear and Trump gets another two terms, and if the Nontrumpers win, Trump and his supporters disappear and Hillary takes the White House with Sanders serving on prime-numbered days. Everything hangs in the balance of this battle.

It's science.
 

RootBeerMan

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What you don't understand is that if one side wins, the other side ceases to exist. If the Trumpers win, all the dissenting democrats disappear and Trump gets another two terms, and if the Nontrumpers win, Trump and his supporters disappear and Hillary takes the White House with Sanders serving on prime-numbered days. Everything hangs in the balance of this battle.

It's science.
That's not how it works. At best Trump could get 1 more term, (here's hoping not). Hillary cannot become president no matter what happens. The next in line is Pence.

Frankly, I hope cooler heads prevail and the violence ceases. It looks bad on the international stage and to the vast majority of Americans. Peaceful protest and non-violent opposition is the way to victory.
 

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That's not how it works. At best Trump could get 1 more term, (here's hoping not). Hillary cannot become president no matter what happens. The next in line is Pence.

Frankly, I hope cooler heads prevail and the violence ceases. It looks bad on the international stage and to the vast majority of Americans. Peaceful protest and non-violent opposition is the way to victory.
I think he was being sarcastic........imho
 
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People becoming active and engaging in dissent, should be seen as a time-honored method of displaying one's discontent with the government.

We can't complain about Americans not being active and involved in politics and then complain when they are, can we?

(Answer: depends on whether we agree with their politics, or not.)
 

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People becoming active and engaging in dissent, should be seen as a time-honored method of displaying one's discontent with the government.

We can't complain about Americans not being active and involved in politics and then complain when they are, can we?

(Answer: depends on whether we agree with their politics, or not.)
You. Can since the only time leftist are active is when republicans are in power
 

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You. Can since the only time leftist are active is when republicans are in power
Seemingly very true. The antiwar Left disappeared for 8 years while Obama was droning innocent people around the globe and overthrowing Libya and destabilising Syria. The rest of us were left out on our own while they basked in the glorious sunshine of his beneficent presence for 8 years.
 

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Seemingly very true. The antiwar Left disappeared for 8 years while Obama was droning innocent people around the globe and overthrowing Libya and destabilising Syria. The rest of us were left out on our own while they basked in the glorious sunshine of his beneficent presence for 8 years.
Spot on. Kudos to code pink for staying the course.
 
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You. Can since the only time leftist are active is when republicans are in power
Seemingly very true. The antiwar Left disappeared for 8 years while Obama was droning innocent people around the globe and overthrowing Libya and destabilising Syria. The rest of us were left out on our own while they basked in the glorious sunshine of his beneficent presence for 8 years.
Sort of like how Tea Partiers have seemingly disappeared since trump's victory.

That's how it usually goes.

When your people are in power you tend to sit back and let them do their thing.
 
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And the only time conservatives give a **** is when democrats are in power, what's your point? That people are biased and play team sports, no ****.
Can you tell what what conservatives cared about?
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Sort of like how Tea Partiers have seemingly disappeared since trump's victory.

That's how it usually goes.

When your people are in power you tend to sit back and let them do their thing.
What are the tea partiera supposed to complain about?
 

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And the only time conservatives give a **** is when democrats are in power, what's your point? That people are biased and play team sports, no ****.
Yep. Somehow having "your team" in power is cause for no longer giving a **** about politics to the same extent you did when the "enemy" was in power, this time spent talking about all the change that's going to happen, but more often than not, little changes, and the president extends the status quo more than they do anything else. Rinse and repeat for the next election period.

It's no different than other nations with all their coups and what-not: "The past 20 presidents have been terrible and corrupt, but this guy, this guy's gonna get it right!"

What are the tea partiera supposed to complain about?
Nothing. That's the point. You don't complain when your side is in power. When they're not, you do. It's a fool-proof system.