I´d consider buying iPad if...

BobHail

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...if the web browsing experience would be at least just as good as with my MacBook Pro, but it isn´t.

Oh well, maybe the next tablet will have a FULL internet, not a mobile internet, what do you think?
 

kdesign7

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...if the web browsing experience would be at least just as good as with my MacBook Pro, but it isn´t.

Oh well, maybe the next tablet will have a FULL internet, not a mobile internet, what do you think?
To be honest, I understand your point.

I to, wish that the Web Experience was exactly the same as a Desktop/Laptop/Netbook... and I believe this is lacking due to the Flash Issue... which Im hoping SOMEDAY will get solved (but at this point, I have a feeling Flash is a dying age) and HTML5 will fixed all our Web Experience Woh's.

I have a feeling that HTML5 is right around the corner... sooner than later.. and this will definitely fix the issue of 'FLASH' content (except for Flash Based Layout and designs of websites, err atleast, I think?!)

I've seen some HTML5 video players and they work WELL! So, Im sure in time, the iPAD Will pick up on this, if it hasn't already.

*** but to sum it up, I still think I am going to Purchase the iPAD. There is many features about the iPAD that I am really looking forward to. ***
 

EssentialParado

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Many websites changed their site layout for iPhones by choice to make them work better, and more like native apps. This is more mitigated on the iPad due to its larger screen, so many websites may not even employ custom versions for the iPad.

If you're referring to Flash support, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it 'mobile internet' because of that.
 

kdesign7

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Many websites changed their site layout for iPhones by choice to make them work better, and more like native apps. This is more mitigated on the iPad due to its larger screen, so many websites may not even employ custom versions for the iPad.

If you're referring to Flash support, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it 'mobile internet' because of that.
I've never been a big fan of FLASH.. mostly for Video Websites like Youtube, but since youtube.com/html5 is beta testing html5, and it works well, Im satisfied.
 

wolfpackfan

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It seems like it is pretty much full web browsing except for Flash and since the Safari Flash plugin crashed on me yesterday while viewing Hulu on my Mac, I really don't see that as much of a loss. There are other ways to view videos. I'll probably just consider downloading the ones I want to watch from iTunes. One thing I see myself using a lot on my iPad is VNC back to my Mac. I can then use my Mac to view Flash websites (other than video probably). I view the iPad as just an extension of my Mac.
 

fobfob

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...if the web browsing experience would be at least just as good as with my MacBook Pro, but it isn´t.

Oh well, maybe the next tablet will have a FULL internet, not a mobile internet, what do you think?
More trolls. I wish there was a thread just for them. In the case of the above, why not just add your comment to one of the existing "I wish ipad had Flash" type thread discussions, instead of starting a new one and disguising it as some other issue? (ie. "mobile internet"??)
 

BobHail

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More trolls. I wish there was a thread just for them. In the case of the above, why not just add your comment to one of the existing "I wish ipad had Flash" type thread discussions, instead of starting a new one and disguising it as some other issue? (ie. "mobile internet"??)
You´re the troll. How can you call the iPad internet anything else than a mobile internet?

Does it have:

-Show Top Sites

-Bookmarks Bar

-Ability to open 8 or more pages and execute expose with 4-finger swipe and jump between them seamlessly

-Ability to have sites like Facebook and automatically updating TV program sites open

-And yes, FLASH! Which is used in pretty much every site.

...to name a few things. So how can anyone say it´s FULL internet? Ridiculous.
 

Sketh

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You´re the troll. How can you call the iPad internet anything else than a mobile internet?

Does it have:

-Show Top Sites

-Bookmarks Bar

-Ability to open 8 or more pages and execute expose with 4-finger swipe and jump between them seamlessly

-Ability to have sites like Facebook and automatically updating TV program sites open

-And yes, FLASH! Which is used in pretty much every site.

...to name a few things. So how can anyone say it´s FULL internet? Ridiculous.
The bolded items are both supported already. And a few of those aren't included in ANY browser, such as four finger swiping to open expose. You wouldn't even need that for switching websites, as there's already a dedicated site switching button.

Flash IS used on a lot of sites, not pretty much everyones site, as you suggested. Also to note that a majority of the sites using flash mainly use them for advertisements, which I won't miss.

Point is, your argument is sort of weak, or could be solved in future software updates. Just saying.
 

PhoneI

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...if the web browsing experience would be at least just as good as with my MacBook Pro, but it isn´t.

Oh well, maybe the next tablet will have a FULL internet, not a mobile internet, what do you think?

My goodness, how many flash posts are we going to have? We get it, you want flash.

Since I turn flash off on my MacBook anyway, the experience will be fine for me.
 

BobHail

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The bolded items are both supported already. And a few of those aren't included in ANY browser, such as four finger swiping to open expose. You wouldn't even need that for switching websites, as there's already a dedicated site switching button.

Flash IS used on a lot of sites, not pretty much everyones site, as you suggested. Also to note that a majority of the sites using flash mainly use them for advertisements, which I won't miss.

Point is, your argument is sort of weak, or could be solved in future software updates. Just saying.
I mean the bookmark bar integrated to the browser with easy one click access to your favorite sites, not some crappy list you have to go to.
 

Sketh

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I mean the bookmark bar integrated to the browser with easy one click access to your favorite sites, not some crappy list you have to go to.
So you'd rather sacrifice screen real estate for a bar for links that you often visit when you could just type the first few letters in of their name, or click one more time than you're used to to access the same content?
 

eawmp1

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So, your MacBook Pro doesn't give you the "Full internet" (whatever that means) that my MacPro does.

My iPhone:
1) Has a Bookmark Icon
2) Can open 8 pages, and I tap the shrink window icon and I can swipe between them seamlessly

The Flash thing has been beaten to death on hundreds of other threads.

When I curl up on the couch or am lying in bed, my iPhone surfs the web and does 99% of what I want it to do. The iPad will do that and more (all on a larger screen). Will an iPad replace your MacBook Pro...no. But it will do most of what the vast majority of computer owners do with their computers...yes. IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A NOTEBOOK REPLACEMENT.

Your blog post adds nothing constructive to the debate. Keep your money in your wallet if you don't want to buy the iPad.
 

fobfob

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You´re the troll. How can you call the iPad internet anything else than a mobile internet?
Cool, what about your laptop internet? I'm not interested in any laptop internet. I want the FULL desktop internet.
 

wolfpackfan

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I continue to be amazed at how much anger there seems to be from bashers who have no intention of buying the iPad. Why do they care so much? Seems like OP is about to have a breakdown over this.
 

BobHail

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Cool, what about your laptop internet? I'm not interested in any laptop internet. I want the FULL desktop internet.
Very funny... not. Actually quite stupid.

laptop internet = desktop internet Makes sense? :rolleyes:

I really don´t get the iPad apologists with their ignorant attitudes. :confused:
 

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Many websites changed their site layout for iPhones by choice to make them work better, and more like native apps. This is more mitigated on the iPad due to its larger screen, so many websites may not even employ custom versions for the iPad.
You touched on a point that I don't people have mentioned before. That is websites that think you're using an iPhone and so direct you to the website that is somewhat restricted. Take espn for example, and while they use flash for a lot, they also have lots of news and information that is not easily accessed via the iPhone.
 

Hmac

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What!!!? We all have to turn in our MacBook/Pro's before we can buy an iPad?

Darn. I was hoping I could still keep my iPod Touch and MacBook Pro along with my iPad, so that I could use each device for what it does best..
 

BobHail

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I only have to present one exhibit to disprove that. "Why don't we call it iFlop", a thread started by you.

What is with you really?
What´s with you with your apologist attitude?

I´m just making valid points of criticism. And I´m serious, I would actually consider buying this, if the web browsing would be as good as with my MacBook Pro. And why shouldn´t I voice my opinion? (Multitasking wouldn´t hurt either, but that could actually come with later updates...)

Which is better, blindly believe or to question your perceived reality?
 

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You´re the troll. How can you call the iPad internet anything else than a mobile internet?

Does it have:

-Show Top Sites

-Bookmarks Bar

-Ability to open 8 or more pages and execute expose with 4-finger swipe and jump between them seamlessly

-Ability to have sites like Facebook and automatically updating TV program sites open

-And yes, FLASH! Which is used in pretty much every site.

...to name a few things. So how can anyone say it´s FULL internet? Ridiculous.
Did you have trouble getting into uni much? I think soooooo, oh yes I do!

Top sites are a web browser feature (a rather useless one) which is made redundant by the iPads bookmark setup. Oh wait, but that setup isn't a bookmarks BAR, it's a much easier and quicker method. oh noes!

Anyone who uses sites like myspace and facebook, and watches TV on the internet is a loser anyway, and flash? pfff. no losertube and adverts. oh noes!
 

BobHail

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Did you have trouble getting into uni much? I think soooooo, oh yes I do!

Top sites are a web browser feature (a rather useless one) which is made redundant by the iPads bookmark setup. Oh wait, but that setup isn't a bookmarks BAR, it's a much easier and quicker method. oh noes!

Anyone who uses sites like myspace and facebook, and watches TV on the internet is a loser anyway, and flash? pfff. no losertube and adverts. oh noes!
Hahahah! Now that was actually funny. :)
 

G4R2

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The correct title to this thread should have been "Yet Another Flash vs. HTML 5 Flame War."

Move along, nothing interesting, new, or worthwhile to see here.
 

Sketh

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What´s with you with your apologist attitude?

I´m just making valid points of criticism. And I´m serious, I would actually consider buying this, if the web browsing would be as good as with my MacBook Pro. And why shouldn´t I voice my opinion? (Multitasking wouldn´t hurt either, but that could actually come with later updates...)

Which is better, blindly believe or to question your perceived reality?
What of what I responded to you with? You really are so against having to click once more to access your bookmarks?

And they are valid only in the sense that you're allowed your own opinion.

So what of your argument is left? No flash?
 

fobfob

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What´s with you with your apologist attitude?
I do not have an apologist attitude. I welcome reasoned debate, and I have not taken a purely pro-Apple stance on the iPad. Yes, I will buy one, but I do acknowledge it is not the god-slate that everyone including yourself wanted. You seem upset that Apple didn't cater to your every whim. Why do I say that? Because the rational consumer would look at the product offering, decide it was not for him/her, and move on. Your constant attention to and postings about the iPad, which you claim you will not buy in its present form, cannot be explained.

I´m just making valid points of criticism.
These criticisms were already being made nanoseconds after the blogs made their breathless progress updates on the iPad launch. They are well known, and acknowledged. You have already raised them in several other threads.

And why shouldn´t I voice my opinion?
The point is, you already have. Many times. You are adding nothing new by starting yet another thread. You are a troll.
 

eawmp1

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Which is better, blindly believe or to question your perceived reality?
Or having a mind closed to something you've never yet experienced or being open-minded.

I don't blindly believe. I just lived through the time when "it sits on a desktop...it cant be a real computer" and "it's got a mouse and a pretty GUI...it can't be a real computer".

In 2, 5, 10 years, we will likely look back at people like you with the same bemused pity we look back at the old mainframe advocates who scoffed at desktops.

And with each post, you are becoming more troll-like.