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Bobby Corwen

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For the first time in a long time Apple impressed me.

I almost shed a tear the new release is that good.

Now I have to come up with three thousand dollars.

Everything about everything from the way they presented it, the historical resonance, and the product they delivered exceeded expectations.

-I wasn't expecting such a drastic improvement in brightness and contrast.
-They used the same sound technology from the iPad Pro 13 which is excellent
-best hugest trackpad on earth, such a welcome improvement on what was already the best trackpad tech
-the bar is a productivity dream and a huge breakthrough I can tell I dont even have to use it. Makes the concept of touch screens like what microsoft is doing a misguided path when this option was right there at our fingertips.

Between the track pad and the bar the MBP all of sudden becomes as relevant as the iPad for productivity.

Imagine logic pro with the new MBP and an iPad with Logic remote on it.

Ridiculously fun and interactive and efficiently productive.
 
I disagree. I can't think of anything that impressed me. This is me just speaking for myself, I in no way want to discount your opinion but here's my take on the things you talked about.

"Now I have to come up with three thousand dollars."
This is one of the biggest issues.

"-I wasn't expecting such a drastic improvement in brightness and contrast."
This is not needed my retina screen is already too bright. Contrast is great. Cool if it's better but I wasn't dying for this upgrade.

"-They used the same sound technology from the iPad Pro 13 which is excellent"
Anyone serious about sound is going to plug speakers in, listening to music on a laptop's speakers is for people who don't care about sound quality, and so it doesn't really matter.

"-best hugest trackpad on earth, such a welcome improvement on what was already the best trackpad tech"
looks super awkward. I'm curious to see how it actually works for workflow, I can't imagine it being easier to be productive on. I wish they had made it like a drawing tablet, that would have been actually interesting.

"-the bar is a productivity dream and a huge breakthrough I can tell I dont even have to use it. Makes the concept of touch screens like what microsoft is doing a misguided path when this option was right there at our fingertips."
Everything they showed is 1. more efficient for pro users to use keyboard shortcuts 2. would have been better done on a touch screen. Except maybe cycling through colors. Seriously, though word predictions? Who types that slow where that's going to help? add a new layer button? What PS user worth their salt doesn't use the keyboard shortcuts for something like that. DJing? LOL It was aimed at non-pro users which is very sad.

"Between the track pad and the bar the MBP all of sudden becomes as relevant as the iPad for productivity."
Oh wait, we're making the ipad the target for productivity? I guess we really are going to non-pro users.

"Imagine logic pro with the new MBP and an iPad with Logic remote on it."
I'm so sad rn.
 
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I absolutely agree! They have indeed done it again. Everything in the new MacBook is impressive, from the technology (its essentially a gaming laptop thats 1.8kg heavy and has 10 hours of battery) to the new interactive dimension. This update absolutely reaffirms Apple's position as innovation leader. The MS products yesterday were quite neat, but they pale in comparison to what Apple has delivered today.
 
I'm impressed with the Tool Bar and slightly impressed with the design improvement, but that's where it ends.

If I see a good Apple Refurb deal in the future, I might pick up a MBP 15', but definitely not interested now. I'm upset they kept the 16gb Ram as the max.
 
I'm impressed with the Tool Bar and slightly impressed with the design improvement, but that's where it ends.

If I see a good Apple Refurb deal in the future, I might pick up a MBP 15', but definitely not interested now. I'm upset they kept the 16gb Ram as the max.
It's true, I didn't even think of that. Why would I buy this? The next generation has gotta have the latest intel and 32GB Ram right? RIGHT?!
 
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It's true, I didn't even think of that. Why would I buy this? The next generation has gotta have the latest intel and 32GB Ram right? RIGHT?!

It has the latest Intel, it has the latest graphics, it doesn't have 32GB :) At any rate, the tech is absolutely top-notch.
 
No 4k, no 32gb, no longer battery life, no pencil support, low end graphics, no HDMI/SD/magsafe, and far more expensive.

What are you taking about? I am not sure on the specs of those GPUs, but they will be faster than 50% of the gaming laptops out there.
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It actually does not have latest graphics and intel.

Can you name anything newer? Skylake is the latest released CPU in that power tier (Kaby Lake only exists in low-powered variants which is about 2 times slower than these skyline CPUs). And you also get Polaris, which is the fastest mid-range GPU that exists currently (Nvidia does't really count because their Pascal mobile GPUs draw more power than the entire 15" MBP)
 
agree an amazing piece of kit good gpu finally on both models no longer a 15 inch with igpu thats a good plus sure a price hike but its justified with the new features thunderbolt 3 toucher, new design ( i do miss the glowing apple logo though) but still so stoked.
 
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What are you taking about? I am not sure on the specs of those GPUs, but they will be faster than 50% of the gaming laptops out there.
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Can you name anything newer? Skylake is the latest released CPU in that power tier (Kaby Lake only exists in low-powered variants which is about 2 times slower than these skyline CPUs). And you also get Polaris, which is the fastest mid-range GPU that exists currently (Nvidia does't really count because their Pascal mobile GPUs draw more power than the entire 15" MBP)
I guess I was under the impression that the Kaby lake processors were ready to go. I was wrong then.
 
I guess I was under the impression that the Kaby lake processors were ready to go. I was wrong then.

I don't blame you. The media coverage of this stuff is really lacking. The problem is that you have companies (Dell) trying to appeal to consumers by releasing new tech early (even if it effectively means loosing performance) and the consumer doesn't double check. The fact is, the Skylake used in the 13" MBP is faster than the Kaby Lake in the new Dell, but because its newer, many people naturally assumed that the Dell is faster. Its a misconception I have seen way too frequently over the last week or so.
 
The prices are a bit to swallow but for me i've had 1+ years to prepare and will be a nice replacement for my 2011 which is showing it's age :)
 
The computer itself is magical. The price, not so much.
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