i can see windows files in mac but not other way around.....

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by Dsr1205, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Dsr1205 macrumors 6502

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    i can see see all the files i saved on the windows partition but not the other way around. i want to access my music on both computers. I dont want to leave my music on the windows partition thou. help?!
     
  2. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    OSX natively supports reading of NTFS and reading and writing to FAT32 (both windows formats) Where as XP/Vista can't do anything with HFS+ (mac format)

    You will have to look into a 3rd party solution such as macdrive or hfsexplorer
     
  3. Dsr1205 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    yeah i just want to listen to music while i play dota, so i just need to acess like 20 songs. will theses programs allow for that?
     
  4. kfordham281 macrumors 6502

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    Another option is to create a shared folder in Parallels or Fusion and place those songs in that folder on OSX. This way you'll be able to access them while using Windows virtualized.
     
  5. lee1210 macrumors 68040

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    Bad news

    <took me too long, some of this was mentioned above>

    Unfortunately there are a few issues involved that are not easily circumvented. Chances are your OS X partition is HFS+ and the windows partition is either FAT32 or NTFS. Here's a breakdown of which OS can access what (limited to the scope of this post) without special tools:
    OSX:
    FAT32 (Read/Write)
    NTFS(Read)
    HFS+ (Read/Write/Boot)

    Windows (Again, limited to the scope, so assuming XP):
    FAT32 (Read/Write/Boot)
    NTFS (Read/Write/Boot)
    HFS+ (none)

    With only two partitions, it's impossible to have a bootable partition for OS X and a bootable partition for Windows and have them both readable (much less writable) while running either system.

    The preferred solution IMO is a third partition that is FAT32 that both systems can read and write, for passing things back and forth. Your music could live there. There are things you can't store there, like OS X programs (because of resource forks, subject of an entirely different thread), but you shouldn't need to be sharing those between environments.

    The next question is how to create this partition. As far as I know, without reinstalling Windows, you can't. I would recommend a combination of using carbon copy cloner to copy your current windows partition, then deleting the windows partition using disk utility. THEN you can divide the empty space left in its wake into 2 partitions, one for your windows installation, one for your shared space. You can then use carbon copy cloner to restore the windows partition to the appropriate place.

    I have not tried this method. If you're not prepared to reinstall windows from scratch, don't try this.

    As an aside, i'm not sure what your need for windows is (AutoCAD? Games? Web development?) but parallels or VMWare Fusion might suit you if you don't need direct hardware access in windows. Then you could listen to music in OS X and work in windows in the virtualized environment.
     
  6. lee1210 macrumors 68040

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    Only 20 songs?

    I'm double posting, sorry.

    Now that i've read you need only 20 songs... it seems like you can just make a copy onto your windows partition from inside OS X (if your windows partition is FAT32) or burn some songs on a CD to "transfer" them from your OSX partition to your windows partition if the windows partition is NTFS.
     
  7. Dsr1205 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    yeah i have 1000 songs but i only listen to about 100 and 20 a majority of the time. I need a full windows for video games and future programming i will need in college. And there are some things i dislike about OSX and i just am more comfortable with windows sometimes. Do you think i can store my music on the windows partition, formatted to FAT32, and just read the files in windows?
     
  8. lee1210 macrumors 68040

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    You should be able to just boot OS X, then copy your favorite 100 songs over to the windows partition (or all of them if you have room), and listen away. This is a bit of a waste of disk space, but I was thinking that your collection would be more dynamic and you wanted to access the "up-to-the-minute" changes for both environments.

    I don't know what programming you will be doing in college, but there's a very high probability that the program you're in will focus on unix/linux programming, so OS X would be a better choice. Even if the program focuses on Java, generally TAs and Profs will be grading on Linux, so you'll need to be sure it works there. Chances are better going from OS X (a sort of BSD/NeXTStep chimera) to linux will be easier than windows to linux.
     
  9. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    Yes they will ( i can only vouch for macdrive but seeing as HFSexplorer is free worth trying out).

    I have used this to play music from my OSX partition while in windows.
     
  10. Neil321 macrumors 68040

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    Is'nt ccc for OS X cloning & winclone for windows cloning?
     
  11. lee1210 macrumors 68040

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    I actually hadn't looked into it. From a cursory look I just took, winclone does look like the right tool for the job. As stated, I hadn't tried this but was trying to put together what seemed like a coherent plan for adding a partition without having to reinstall anything.
     
  12. Neil321 macrumors 68040

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    Ok i got ya,but thought id point this out
     

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