I can wait for a 27" iMac update, but I really don't want to...

louis0nfire

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I want to order right now, but I just don't want to regret it if it's updated soon (before the fall). Ugh, what do I do!? I don't NEED it now, but I want it now!
 

TMRaven

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The update wouldn't be much of an update. The best an update could possibly do would be to upgrade gpu to mobility 5870, but I assume they're just gonna use the mobility 5850, which isn't really an upgrade.

Upping the cpu wouldn't make much sense, i7 860 is already very powerful. i7 870 would be too much money.
 

Amasashi

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I just bought an iMac 27" Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz two weeks ago and I was also worried about a soon-to-be-announced update. I ended up going for it because:

1. The late 2009 iMac was obviously a major revision. Not as big as going from white plastic to aluminum, but still pretty significant. I was sold on the 16:9 screen, unibody aluminum, and SD card slot, and I wanted to be able to use this model for as long as possible before the next major revision hits.

2. I personally think that this year's update will probably be just a minor bump in CPU or GPU, nothing spectacular. There's a possibility of the Core 2 Duos being replaced with i3s, and that was a risk I took because I was on a budget and quad-core would be been overkill for my simple computing needs. But if you're going for the i5 or i7 models, then you have no worries here.

3. I've been wanting to go to bed with the iMac 27 since the day it was released, but I held out because I thought iWork '10 would be announced this January. Obviously I was wrong. Then I thought I would wait for a possible 2010 update in June, but then I realized June was going to be about iPhone 4.0 and a MacBook update, so I got tired of waiting and just went for it, something I should have done last October :p

To sum up, if you're going for the quad-core models, you should have nothing to worry about. If you're going for the Core 2 Duo, then you might have to risk an i3 upgrade in the fall/winter.

Just my two cents.
 

TiffanyBee

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I was going to wait until the update but I just bought it because I couldn't wait. I don't exactly NEED it either because my PC still functioned, I just WANTED it really bad (bc it's so much better).

Like others before me said, the update won't be too crazy.

If you went out & got it now, & they update it in June/July/August, you could always sell your iMac & pay the difference for a new one.

I'd recommend you not visit the apple store everyday/read the forums. I honestly couldn't hold my horses because I checked everyday & my school's library has 10 iMacs in a circle on a desk so people can check the online catalogue. haha if you can wait, do it. If not, it's not a big deal! If you've got money to burn, gooo for it.
 

TMRaven

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mobility 5750 would be quite the downgrade from mobility 4850-- hopefully apple takes advantage of its lower heat production and uses desktop 5750 instead of mobile version like the 4850. Judging by how they mentioned "720 shader parts," they're indeed talking about the desktop variant.
 

Eduardo1971

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I want to order right now, but I just don't want to regret it if it's updated soon (before the fall). Ugh, what do I do!? I don't NEED it now, but I want it now!
I'm in the same boat as you. I just wanna wait and see if there is something released just before or just after WWDC '10. Hopefully the C2D will be completely dropped and we'll see the newer Intel chips at a the current price point as the iMac's C2D.
 

gto55

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may be apple is waiting for ati upgrades :p


http://translate.google.fr/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/57026-radeon-hd-5670-juniper-redwood-gpu.htm&sl=fr&tl=en

There are rumors that AMD may soon offer an update of its Radeon HD 5670. Partners are also already prepared to offer such a product.

It is currently based on a chip generation and Redwood and has 400 processing units. The new version could then use a chip generation Juniper activated with 640 units on 800, all at 750 MHz.

Radeon HD 5k February 25 Table 10 14h

The memory interface of 128 bits remain, and the frequency of GDDR-5 1 GHz, but the computing power of GPUs is still an increase of over 50%. The result, unfortunately, the need to have a power connector standard six-pin PCIe, which was not the case with the original version.

Remains to be seen what will happen in practice, at what price would be offered this card and if AMD really wants to keep the name for the HD 5670 which would rather be a HD 5730.
 

IndustrialSpace

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Will the new revision have a better screen, like one without the yellow tint and grey band or noisy hard drive?

What about these issues. IfF I were you, I'd wait the extra 2-3 months for the update.
 

Gherkin

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I'm waiting for the new updated iMacs, but mainly because I won't have the money until the Fall.

I wonder if they'll put the i7 in the 21.5" model?

Even though I do photo/video work, the 27" screen seems like overkill for me.
 

snsr

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I want to order right now, but I just don't want to regret it if it's updated soon (before the fall). Ugh, what do I do!? I don't NEED it now, but I want it now!
You'll be thrilled with one; an incremental upgrade wont really matter. If it makes you feel better, the i5 I picked up last dec is perfect.
 

akm3

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Not directly related to the previous discussion but I don't want to start a new thread just for this:

There is a nearly zero probability that the next iMac will have eSata ports, right? That is the only thing I would absolutely go bonkers upset about if they were updated to include.
 

Sensamic

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I bought it last week and am very very happy. And what if the next imacs have worse yellow tint or still have noise hds or other problems? Dont expect the next imacs wont have problems.
 

r boyett

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Not directly related to the previous discussion but I don't want to start a new thread just for this:

There is a nearly zero probability that the next iMac will have eSata ports, right? That is the only thing I would absolutely go bonkers upset about if they were updated to include.
I do have my doubts that eSata will ever be on Mac's. BUT I do have hopes that USB 3.0 ports will be arriving sometime soon. Now that a few external USB 3.0 hard drives have started appearing on the market it would be great to have that on the iMac.
 

IndustrialSpace

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I can't imagine them being worse at this point.

I can... Apple iMac quality has FALLEN with this version. So many complaints; more than past iMacs. Steve Jobs doesn't care about iMac users, evidently... he's on to iPads and iPhones... these are the technologies they are focusing on. In reality, it really doesn't appear that Apple did much to fix the yellow tint problem. Their statement of "addresing the problem" has more to do with how to turn away customers who want replacements or steer them to one-time screeen replacements. The message is that you live with yellow or return it. Its your choice. Apple is NOT goingto manufacture perfect screens. It would affect their enormous profits to do so. They know they have a lot of loyal Apple apologists who look past the yellow tint. If customers accept the yellow and settle, this becomes the standard as to what is or isnt acceptable. Whats worse, Apple is flooding the refurbishment store wiht retuned iMacs that have yellowing. The business model is this - all new iMac returns will be routed into the refurb store. Those purchasing the refurb have an expectation that the unit is used and will therefore NOT be perfect. You essentailly are purchasing a faulty iMac, in that it will be coming from a prior user who had yellow tint issues. Don't be fooled. Apple is NOT throwing away returns. They are merely going to be repackaged as a refurb. Those who have ordered refurbs know what Im talking about.
 

aiqw9182

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I can... Apple iMac quality has FALLEN with this version. So many complaints; more than past iMacs. Steve Jobs doesn't care about iMac users, evidently... he's on to iPads and iPhones... these are the technologies they are focusing on. In reality, it really doesn't appear that Apple did much to fix the yellow tint problem. Their statement of "addresing the problem" has more to do with how to turn away customers who want replacements or steer them to one-time screeen replacements. The message is that you live with yellow or return it. Its your choice. Apple is NOT goingto manufacture perfect screens. It would affect their enormous profits to do so. They know they have a lot of loyal Apple apologists who look past the yellow tint. If customers accept the yellow and settle, this becomes the standard as to what is or isnt acceptable. Whats worse, Apple is flooding the refurbishment store wiht retuned iMacs that have yellowing. The business model is this - all new iMac returns will be routed into the refurb store. Those purchasing the refurb have an expectation that the unit is used and will therefore NOT be perfect. You essentailly are purchasing a faulty iMac, in that it will be coming from a prior user who had yellow tint issues. Don't be fooled. Apple is NOT throwing away returns. They are merely going to be repackaged as a refurb. Those who have ordered refurbs know what Im talking about.
:rolleyes:

That same yellow tint is also a problem in Dell's 27-inch U2711 display. Apple oursources their displays from LG, much like Dell does for some of their displays. Oh, and there won't be as many problems next refresh. You want to know why? Because there won't be any design changes. This isn't rocket science.
 

TMRaven

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Steve Jobs said so himself that apple is a mobile device company in one of his last keynotes.

Of course no one can find any solid proof of his saying that he doesn't care about desktop mac users, but the amount of attention apple used to give to its computers has since dwindled because of all its focus on iPhone and iPad.
 

sadcamper

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I can... Apple iMac quality has FALLEN with this version. So many complaints; more than past iMacs. Steve Jobs doesn't care about iMac users, evidently... he's on to iPads and iPhones... these are the technologies they are focusing on. In reality, it really doesn't appear that Apple did much to fix the yellow tint problem. Their statement of "addresing the problem" has more to do with how to turn away customers who want replacements or steer them to one-time screeen replacements. The message is that you live with yellow or return it. Its your choice. Apple is NOT goingto manufacture perfect screens. It would affect their enormous profits to do so. They know they have a lot of loyal Apple apologists who look past the yellow tint. If customers accept the yellow and settle, this becomes the standard as to what is or isnt acceptable. Whats worse, Apple is flooding the refurbishment store wiht retuned iMacs that have yellowing. The business model is this - all new iMac returns will be routed into the refurb store. Those purchasing the refurb have an expectation that the unit is used and will therefore NOT be perfect. You essentailly are purchasing a faulty iMac, in that it will be coming from a prior user who had yellow tint issues. Don't be fooled. Apple is NOT throwing away returns. They are merely going to be repackaged as a refurb. Those who have ordered refurbs know what Im talking about.
I wish I had read this post before I ordered a refurb this past Monday. It's all rather obvious, but when you're shopping for a new computer, you get excited and overlook the obvious (well, at least I do).

At this point, I don't know what to do...keep ordering and returning until I fluke and get one with a good screen...or wait for the refresh and see how people react to their new purchases. :confused::confused::confused:

I remember when buying a computer was easy.
 

Jiten

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Issues like these are not unique to the Apple of today, older iMacs and portables had their own unique generational issues before. The 17 inch intel iMacs had problems with vertical lines, the "classic" Macbook Pro with their "self-destructing" 8600 GPU and if you go back further the portables like the white 3G iBooks had motherboard issues etc.

it is more like Apple did not improve its QA at all.
 

iamthedudeman

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I can... Apple iMac quality has FALLEN with this version. So many complaints; more than past iMacs. Steve Jobs doesn't care about iMac users, evidently... he's on to iPads and iPhones... these are the technologies they are focusing on. In reality, it really doesn't appear that Apple did much to fix the yellow tint problem. Their statement of "addresing the problem" has more to do with how to turn away customers who want replacements or steer them to one-time screeen replacements. The message is that you live with yellow or return it. Its your choice. Apple is NOT goingto manufacture perfect screens. It would affect their enormous profits to do so. They know they have a lot of loyal Apple apologists who look past the yellow tint. If customers accept the yellow and settle, this becomes the standard as to what is or isnt acceptable. Whats worse, Apple is flooding the refurbishment store wiht retuned iMacs that have yellowing. The business model is this - all new iMac returns will be routed into the refurb store. Those purchasing the refurb have an expectation that the unit is used and will therefore NOT be perfect. You essentailly are purchasing a faulty iMac, in that it will be coming from a prior user who had yellow tint issues. Don't be fooled. Apple is NOT throwing away returns. They are merely going to be repackaged as a refurb. Those who have ordered refurbs know what Im talking about.
Stop spewing non-sense. Refurbs are 9 times out of 10 better than new, that is a fact. Apple doesn't simply take a returned imac and wipe it down and then sell it.

This post might be one of the most idiotic I have ever read on this forum. You are stating your opinion as fact. When it is the furthest thing from it. Try hitting the search button before spewing such non-sense. :mad:
 

iamthedudeman

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I wish I had read this post before I ordered a refurb this past Monday. It's all rather obvious, but when you're shopping for a new computer, you get excited and overlook the obvious (well, at least I do).

At this point, I don't know what to do...keep ordering and returning until I fluke and get one with a good screen...or wait for the refresh and see how people react to their new purchases. :confused::confused::confused:

I remember when buying a computer was easy.
You have nothing to worry about trust me.
 

SaSaSushi

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Stop spewing non-sense. Refurbs are 9 times out of 10 better than new, that is a fact. Apple doesn't simply take a returned imac and wipe it down and then sell it.

This post might be one of the most idiotic I have ever read on this forum. You are stating your opinion as fact. When it is the furthest thing from it. Try hitting the search button before spewing such non-sense. :mad:
I very much doubt anyone takes anything he says seriously.

Just ignore list him if you finally get sick of his trolling. I didn't but I generally just skip over every post bearing his name. It's not like you don't know what he's going to write. lol
 

BobbyCat

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There is a nearly zero probability that the next iMac will have eSata ports, right? That is the only thing I would absolutely go bonkers upset about if they were updated to include.
Griffin sells an adapter for eSata that plugs into the SD card input.
I haven't tried it yet, but I have a 1TB drive that supports eSata, so when I buy a 27", I sure hope I'll get a nice speed boost with the adapter.