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As you can see, there will be no 10nm or 7nm till 2021 while 14nm still exist till 2021... Gosh, seriously Intel? If that's true, what would you suggest to buy since I have only Mac Pro 2010 and MacBook Pro 2013?
 

As you can see, there will be no 10nm or 7nm till 2021 while 14nm still exist till 2021... Gosh, seriously Intel? If that's true, what would you suggest to buy since I have only Mac Pro 2010 and MacBook Pro 2013?
buy for usage not xx "nm".The more smaller the more heat since max per core 4 ghz.
 
I would buy because there has been no news of any iMac updates at all. If there were rumors of an update, I'd be cautious, but there's really been nothing. The iMac probably won't be updated again for a while.
 
buy for usage not xx "nm".The more smaller the more heat since max per core 4 ghz.

NM matters especially for Intel. Since Broadwell, they never ever improve their processing instead of keep using 14nm. As a result, more heat and power consumption.

"The more smaller the more heat since max per core 4 gh"
Not true. How come 3rd gen Ryzen has better performance and yet less TDP?
 
NM matters especially for Intel. Since Broadwell, they never ever improve their processing instead of keep using 14nm. As a result, more heat and power consumption.

"The more smaller the more heat since max per core 4 gh"
Not true. How come 3rd gen Ryzen has better performance and yet less TDP?
just bought amd a6 9225 apu last month tough it can be basic tool just to connect to hdmi for presentation purpose , if apple had a way to connect projector to ipad i wouldn't bought it.

Maybe NM matter for intel , but we are using it. So i don't care NM thing as long my IPAD and IMAC work as i wanted to.

** the laptop in the box .. no more amd in the future for me..
** the amd proc good can do basic stuff but it tend to overheat and fan keep spinning till 4k rpm. Send RMA 2 times and now waiting 18th for customer support to respond.
** future maybe i bought macbook air instead for basic travel presentation and so on.
 
NM matters especially for Intel. Since Broadwell, they never ever improve their processing instead of keep using 14nm. As a result, more heat and power consumption.

You're right, feature size is important, but he's also not wrong that shrinking transistors can increase the heat output per square millimeter since you're packing more transistors in the same space with less metal to dissipate the heat. Go look at TDP values for the Pentium I and compare to today's CPU's.

Anyway, the point was, I believe, that you should buy what you need when you need it for a purpose. If you can wait for a process shrink, you don't need it now, and maybe you don't even need it later.

"The more smaller the more heat since max per core 4 gh"
Not true. How come 3rd gen Ryzen has better performance and yet less TDP?

Lots of things can impact the TDP. First of all, AMD and Intel do not measure the same thing with their TDP figures. Secondly, mainstream Intel chips have a lot of die area dedicated to the iGPU. Mainstream Ryzen parts do not have this. Thirdly, there's a lot of power saving logic in CPUs nowadays which is not necessarily identical for Intel and AMD. Fourthly, there may be differences in Intel's and TSMC's manufacturing processes. Fifthly, CPU design can impact efficiency in huge ways, like the Core 2 Duo outperforms the Pentium D by a lot while consuming less power even on identical Intel process nodes (65 nm).
 
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